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How many of you will comply?

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LifesTooShortYOLO · 21/10/2021 10:34

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

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midlifecrash · 23/10/2021 15:34

Yes

theDudesmummy · 23/10/2021 15:36

@ilovesooty now that I agree with, I think preventing seeing people from seeing their family members should be the absolute last resort, and should hopefully not have to happen, if people would just take the other measures.

Treblebass · 23/10/2021 15:43

@Gilly12345

I’ve had many of those types of Christmas days even before covid. I do however have other busy family Christmas days. The beauty is in the choice. The behavioural psychologists attached to government know fine well the level of compliance they once achieved is a thing of the past.

bluejelly · 23/10/2021 15:47

The thing about letting people just make up their own minds is that catching Covid and getting seriously ill doesn't only affect the individual, it can have huge knock-on effects for others. Not least the medical staff caring for people in ICU for weeks on end. Don't get me wrong, I missed my parents hugely. But we all understood why we couldn't see each other

YouokHun · 23/10/2021 15:55

@bluejelly

A lot of people hated not seeing their parents during lockdown. It's understandable. But what's way worse is seeing your parents and giving them an awful disease. That's why I was happy to follow the law then, and would be again. Laws without reason are infuriating but there have been extremely good reasons to prevent people mixing in the last 18 months. We shouldn't lose sight of that.
@bluejelly My late father’s comments will help here:

“This is my last Christmas, I know I’m dying and I know it’s coming soon. I’ve seen no one, I’ve been unable to say goodbye to the people and places I care about. If we spend Christmas together there is a greater chance I will catch Covid. Let me be very clear - I don’t care about that. I want to be with my family while I still can, It’s what I’m hanging on for”.

What’s “way worse” depends on your options. How happy to enforce the rules would people be if they actually had to make some hard choices? It’s very easy to say “don’t lose sight of the restrictions being in place for a good reason” if, as others have pointed out, they cause you no real dilemmas.

As a family we have been careful to follow best practices and still do but broke the rules between two households last Christmas and will do so again this Christmas without hesitation.

bluejelly · 23/10/2021 16:00

@YouokHun I'm so sorry for your loss. I think those sound like exceptional circumstances and you did the right thing to be together.

TheKeatingFive · 23/10/2021 16:02

The thing about letting people just make up their own minds is that catching Covid and getting seriously ill doesn't only affect the individual, it can have huge knock-on effects for others. Not least the medical staff caring for people in ICU for weeks on end.

I don't owe the state, the health service or anyone else more time separated from my parents. It's much too big an ask.

bluejelly · 23/10/2021 16:06

@TheKeatingFive

The thing about letting people just make up their own minds is that catching Covid and getting seriously ill doesn't only affect the individual, it can have huge knock-on effects for others. Not least the medical staff caring for people in ICU for weeks on end.

I don't owe the state, the health service or anyone else more time separated from my parents. It's much too big an ask.

I feel the opposite. I have benefitted enormously from the NHS in my life and am happy to make the sacrifice for its benefit.
2boysand1princess · 23/10/2021 16:09

Well restrictions aren’t returning in covid hotspot and we have no choice but to comply.
Masks and bubbles are back in 3 of our large secondary schools. My eldest is at one of them and if we want him in school we will comply with the new rules.
In my baby’s nursery and youngest DC’s primary school, if any member of staff has family that have tested positive, that member of staff has to isolate for 10 days regardless of vaccination status.

2boysand1princess · 23/10/2021 16:10

@2boysand1princess

Well restrictions aren’t returning in covid hotspot and we have no choice but to comply. Masks and bubbles are back in 3 of our large secondary schools. My eldest is at one of them and if we want him in school we will comply with the new rules. In my baby’s nursery and youngest DC’s primary school, if any member of staff has family that have tested positive, that member of staff has to isolate for 10 days regardless of vaccination status.
Meant: restrictions ARE returning
TheKeatingFive · 23/10/2021 16:11

I feel the opposite. I have benefitted enormously from the NHS in my life and am happy to make the sacrifice for its benefit.

Knock yourself out.

I can't say I feel the same as my FIL died 4 years ago because the ambulance didn't get to him in time. I've never particularly felt that the health service was was there to 'save' me.

Treblebass · 23/10/2021 16:18

@TheKeatingFive

I feel the same. They never really did much to help my severely mentally Ill grandmother who had to endure 50 years of psychosis before she was offered psychotherapy and not just drugs.

I guess if she had been poorly with covid though she may have received some help.

The NHS is a wonderful institution don’t get me wrong but I’m not willing to give up precious time for it.

It’s also not my fault the government decide to not adequately fund it.

StTherese · 23/10/2021 16:20

We wouldn't comply.
DH and I are both double jabbed but we stopped wearing masks months ago. I'm not getting the booster, DS is not getting jabbed either.

I only have DM, she's not in good health anyway and the separation nearly destroyed her last time.

The govt are full of bullsh*t. The media is just as bad if not worse.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 23/10/2021 16:22

@bluejelly

A lot of people hated not seeing their parents during lockdown. It's understandable. But what's way worse is seeing your parents and giving them an awful disease. That's why I was happy to follow the law then, and would be again. Laws without reason are infuriating but there have been extremely good reasons to prevent people mixing in the last 18 months. We shouldn't lose sight of that.
Not everyone has elderly parents. My mum is early 50s and works frontline in a hospital, she is not high risk and caught Covid at work at the beginning of the pandemic, so I want to see her over Christmas. She's had a booster jab also.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 23/10/2021 16:24

I recently started paying for private healthcare insurance too. So I will help the NHS by not using it any more. I'm not going to restrict my life.

XenoBitch · 23/10/2021 17:00

I feel the opposite. I have benefitted enormously from the NHS in my life and am happy to make the sacrifice for its benefit.

For me, still seeing friends/family means I cost the NHS less.

HesterShaw1 · 23/10/2021 17:07

@XenoBitch

I feel the opposite. I have benefitted enormously from the NHS in my life and am happy to make the sacrifice for its benefit.

For me, still seeing friends/family means I cost the NHS less.

Yes, same.

It's a nonsense to suggest that millions of people being terribly lonely/stressed/depressed will "save the NHS".

jgw1 · 23/10/2021 17:08

It's a nonsense to suggest that millions of people being terribly lonely/stressed/depressed will "save the NHS".

I thought the clapping saved the NHS?

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 23/10/2021 17:09

@Gilly12345

I will comply.

Last Christmas was lovely, for once we stayed at home, relaxed and didn’t have to spend time with family and rush around to different houses and also was great not hosting and spent a lot less.

Chances are…. Those people that used to come to you also loved having Christmas in their own home!

2021 Christmas…. Be honest!

Your Christmas last year was like my Christmas every year. Hence me absolutely loving the time of year

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 23/10/2021 17:11

@StTherese

We wouldn't comply. DH and I are both double jabbed but we stopped wearing masks months ago. I'm not getting the booster, DS is not getting jabbed either.

I only have DM, she's not in good health anyway and the separation nearly destroyed her last time.

The govt are full of bullsh*t. The media is just as bad if not worse.

How come not getting the booster? Night as well not be jabbed after 6 months if you don’t get the booster
HesterShaw1 · 23/10/2021 17:15

@jgw1

It's a nonsense to suggest that millions of people being terribly lonely/stressed/depressed will "save the NHS".

I thought the clapping saved the NHS?

Of course. Silly me.
AlphabetAerobics · 23/10/2021 17:20

I’m still waiting for my brain surgery - postponed indefinitely to save the nhs.

I hadn’t considered clapping myself right.

Anothermuddywalk · 23/10/2021 17:22

What a ridiculous statement 😂 the vaccine doesn't just stop working at 6 months. It reduces effectiveness slightly. That's what "waning" means. It's unbelievable to me how many people seem to think that means "immediately stops working".
And as for why people aren't getting a booster, that will be because only those in the groups 1-9 are eligible in the UK, so most people under 50 won't be getting one. And since our immune systems weaken as we get older, it makes sense to give those groups the booster over younger healthy people who's immune systems will likely have responded better the vaccine.

Burynan · 23/10/2021 17:31

Totally agree...the message about staff shortages were obviously missed by most people as the reason why not just the nightingale hospitals failed to operate but also why large areas of our normal hospitals has to close. Not only was It was taking four staff to turn the intubated patients on the ICUnits every few hours but the number of ICU beds doubled. Were did all these extra staff come from......yes the other wards/depts.

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