How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

@FuckeryOmbudsman

I will not comply with mask wearing again either I will just apply my valid exemption reason

If you have been wearing a mask then you care capable of doing so, and you are not exempt.

It's not yet having a condition, it is that the condition also renders you unable to wear a mask.

The condition makes it distressing for me to wear a mask but I suffered the distress in the name of compliance. I will not do that again.

I agree, but only to a point. When the system is overloaded to the point where those who need care are forced to go without it, I'm fine with sending those at fault for their own conditions to the back of the line. But I don't think that should be limited to foregoing covid vaccination. It should also apply to drug overdoses and other substance issues, car accidents caused by reckless driving or substance abuse, obesity, and arguably even pregnancy. If judgments of fault are going to factor into a person's medical care, there should be a consistent rule, not one rule for covid and another rule for bad non-covid-related life choices.

I understand your point, but much of what you mention - alcoholism, obesity, substance abuse etc - is an illness in itself that exacerbates other medical problems. Deciding not to have a vaccination isn't an illness. Pregnancy is a necessary part of life for society to exist at all. Anti vaxxing is not. Car accidents are by definition accidental and unpredictable so not an issue of negligence. Anti vaxxing is a choice.

I can work from home and have a reasonable employer who won't expect us to break rules or guidance. And I have worn face coverings in indoor areas since March 2020 - way before we actually had to!

But I will see my mother at Christmas, whatever the stupid government says.

As long as everyone has had all the jabs they are supposed to we'd probably still meet up at Christmas. I'd leave it up to the older generation to decide if they were comfortable with it, it's their risk really.

god are people STILL saying face nappies? It's appropriate in that it's only ever big babies who say it but wow, you look like such dicks when you say that

Don't they?

I didn't comply the last time so no plans to should it happen again.

Which it wont.

Of course I’d comply! You do what’s asked of you if it helps stop the spread. Don’t like some of my family really anyway... However, I wouldn’t put my young kids through homeschool Zoom hell again if it came to that kind of lockdown. I’d deregister and they’d go a bit more feral for a month.

I really feel like they need to up the booster rollout for over 60s or whatever. I know no one who has had it yet.

@PeachesPumpkin

I will comply because I think of the greater good and other people.

ODFOD.

I've complied as much as I can. My mental health is on the ropes and another winter of being isolated could finish me off.

No, if they expect people to go to work on public transport to keep the economy going it seems a bit ridiculous and pointless to say households can’t mix. It’s either fine to do both or neither, doesn’t make sense to just restrict the fun mixing.

We don’t need to ‘not comply’, as we’re a very small family but there’s no way I wouldn’t see my family if they were alive etc…

I’d meet anyone that wants to meet even if advised against it. I understand different people have different circumstances, but I’m of the belief that you can’t expect strangers to put their lives on hold and stop doing things they get a lot of joy from (and that is important to human nature/socialisation) for something that won’t affect them.

We know there are vulnerable people and it’s not ideal at all, however seeing family and friends is a huge part of what makes us human. Whilst some would argue it’s immoral if people will die, I’d say it’s immoral to expect people not to see loved ones.

We’re all dealt a card in life and we should di what we can to protect our loved ones and to keep them safe.

Nope. I won't be.

Complied throughout but now we are all double jabbed I'm living my life again. We saw no one last Xmas as we were tier 4. I'm not doing it again. DH and DS still off to school every day so tbh my risk comes from them, and it's not likely they will shut schools again (which I agree with - I just think inter school measures are necessary whereas there's currently nothing!).

I understand your point, but much of what you mention - alcoholism, obesity, substance abuse etc - is an illness in itself that exacerbates other medical problems. Deciding not to have a vaccination isn't an illness.

I think it's naive to say that one's free will plays no role in any of those things. For obesity in particular, I don't think it's reasonable to believe that every obese or overweight person has some sort of illness that causes it, because that's half the population. Moreover, I suspect there are mental illnesses or at least mental health issues in play for many of the more conspiracy-minded anti-vaxers.

Pregnancy is a necessary part of life for society to exist at all. Anti vaxxing is not.

It's not as if the world's going to run out of people. If someone knows that their pregnancy is going to be high-risk or complicated, they're choosing to assume that risk, just as someone who doesn't get vaccinated is choosing to assume the risk of getting seriously ill from covid.

Car accidents are by definition accidental and unpredictable so not an issue of negligence.

Many, perhaps most, car accidents are caused by negligence. That's certainly true of drunk driving accidents.

I just don't see why an unvaccinated person with severe covid should go to the back of the line while a drunk or reckless driver who almost killed himself in the process of killing a family of four, or a lifelong smoker with lung cancer, is considered a higher priority.

My main concern is schools, my DC is 5 and has ASD and some developmental/language delays. He missed 5 months of nursery during the first lockdown when he was 3, then started reception and that closed during the winter lockdown and SEN children were only invited to attend school for 2 mornings and per week. He’s just started year one and this is his first ever year in a setting with no disruption so far. He also has none of the extra support he needs yet as covid has slowed down the application process.
It’s without doubt that he would have had a far better start in life without any of this and it feels awful.
Tbh i wouldn’t struggle as much with other aspects of lockdown if necessary but don’t know what I’ll do if they close schools again.

It seems like the vats majority of people won't comply with any future lockdowns with reasons given including not trusting the government/scientists. This isn't meant as a criticism but why is the government/ science trusted with the vaccines which has over 90% taking them yet with lockdowns they are useless or don't know what they are talking about when using the same science to justify imposing them .

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Nope

No. I will never comply with that shit ever again.

I tried complying during the last lockdowns and it very nearly cost me the chance of seeing my 87 year old Dad one last time before he died (not Covid related). Fortunately, I saw sense, ditched the lockdown rules and went to my parents house. I'm glad I did, as it meant I got to see him alive one last time and have a few conversations with him.

My newly widowed mother is the same age and also no longer in the best of health. Nothing and nobody will stop me going to see her whenever either of us wants it.

My Dad's death during the last lockdown taught me how little time that elderly parents can have left.

So it's a loud NO!! from me.

If they asked me to mask up in some settings, yes I would.

WFH - yes, most of the time.

Stop seeing my friends and family - nope, they can whistle.

i will - ish
same as I did before - ish

I kind of realised I was following it like a 5/7 diet
following MOST of the rules to the T but bending some

My young adult dd had left home to work on the nhs frontline right at the start, we let her, from the start, come home to visit.
She had early access to lateral flow tests and was vaccinated early
We didnt however have anyone ELSE in the house MOSTLY

When the rules loosened to meeting up to 6 in gardens etc i was lax about 6 and had 8 or 9 BUT rural not overlooked no neighbours ...
but then as time went by, I started letting us end the evening inside

But in my head i thought I was MOSTLY following the rules

I should have added that all of my family are now double jabbed. Winter Covid boosters are booked. My own is in 10 days time so I will soon be triple jabbed.

There's nothing more I can do.

Sky News have just done a piece and first context piece I've seen for a long time from the MSM. Whilst cases are rising fast, when you compare it to the testing we're doing it actually brings the figure right down as our testing rates are so high. As the reporter said, the more you test the more likely you're going to find positive cases. The chart actually showed the UK way below the US and Japan and more in line with everyone else.

They then showed the fatality rate and same story. Finally they done a break down of deaths, ages and vaccinated. What we're hearing is the scare story of those being double vaccinated dying. When they put it into context the massive % was over 80s. When they then broke it down further the highest % of fatalities were those unvaccinated.

So, I suspect that the govt is well aware of this, which is why they're trying to resist pressure to bring back some restrictions.

No one wants anyone to get covid, let alone become seriously ill or die from it, but the stats still show what we've know for a while - it's a very serious illness for certain demographic but for the overwhelming vast majority of people it remains a mild disease.

Honestly I would never, ever comply again and neither would my family. That includes NHS nurses (my sisters).

We are all done done.

I see the mask lovers are frothing at the mouth again. If you like a comfort blanket on your face then crack on, I won't be.

Absolutely not, we'd all ignore it.