How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

@Whammyyammy

Bring it on. Best £1 I've spent. Cheaper than face nappies

god are people STILL saying face nappies? It's appropriate in that it's only ever big babies who say it but wow, you look like such dicks when you say that.

I cant imagine them bringing in severe restrictions.

It's now a war on the unvaccinated and HCPs are losing a lot of patience. I have a lot of friends/family in the NHS- the vast vast majority of seriously ill people are unvaccinated. Most vaccinated people will not adjust their behaviour to protect them (reasonably so?).

Masks, SD with strangers, one way systems- no problem. I try to do this day to day anyway. I cycle to avoid public transport etc.

No complying here either. Obviously, I can't do much about non-essential shops etc closing, but I will not stop seeing friends and family.

I will comply because I think of the greater good and other people.

Don’t think voluntary will work now.

If it becomes necessary (and let’s hope it won’t), it will need to be properly enforced.

@PeachesPumpkin

I will comply because I think of the greater good and other people.

Social isolation kills people too.

@CarryOnNurse20

I cant imagine them bringing in severe restrictions.

It's now a war on the unvaccinated and HCPs are losing a lot of patience. I have a lot of friends/family in the NHS- the vast vast majority of seriously ill people are unvaccinated. Most vaccinated people will not adjust their behaviour to protect them (reasonably so?).

Masks, SD with strangers, one way systems- no problem. I try to do this day to day anyway. I cycle to avoid public transport etc.

Yep. Anybody who wants to go back to 18th century medicine and refuse the vaccine has no sympathy from me. I do feel sorry for the CEV people that the anti-vaxxers are putting in more danger. But the rest of us can't be expected not to see our families because anti vaxxers are a bit thick.

I had a (UK) holiday booked for me and DP last year, then couldn't go obviously because of the lockdown.
I've booked a similar one this year (possibly tempting fate). It's just me and DP getting a train to a rental cottage and then spending a week walking on quiet beaches and sitting in the cottage reading and watching the telly. I have to admit, short of another national lockdown/trains not running/holiday company cancelling like they did last year, we will be going this time. We desperately need the time off and away.

I'd love to see a graph comparing people wjo are anti vaxxers with people who voted for this Government. I'd bet money that the correlation is huge.

Followed every rule throughout this sorry affair.

Double vaxed, kids will be vexed, and, to answer your question:

If they close schools again, we will not comply with a single Covid rule ever again.

Hell no

Never complied to this bullshit & never will

@TheEvilPea
I agree. A friend who works in ITU said they have stopped bothering to have the 'why didn't you have the vaccine' conversation. Patients inevitably come in wishing they had had it and begging to be given it (too late by then). But sympathy from staff is waning fast.

[quote CarryOnNurse20]@TheEvilPea
I agree. A friend who works in ITU said they have stopped bothering to have the 'why didn't you have the vaccine' conversation. Patients inevitably come in wishing they had had it and begging to be given it (too late by then). But sympathy from staff is waning fast.[/quote]
I don't blame them. Absolute idiots. It's amazing many of them survived as far as adulthood really. I have no sympathy at all because their stupidity and inability to analyse scientific data in a rational way is increasing the risk for everyone else.

@PurpleOkapi

I might end up complying by happenstance. I haven't finalised plans yet, so it's possible I wouldn't have seen them regardless. But I wouldn't not do it just to comply.

This is probably me. I tend to meet up with friends after school drop off, go for a coffee etc. I see some friends fairly regularly at the gym. We don’t tend to have people round all that much anyway and we live far away from family so can easily go a few months. I would happily break the rules but realistically would be compliant 95% of the time just through lifestyle anyway 🤷‍♀️.

None compliance here.

I am scrupulous about wearing my mask, a simple measure to but transmission.

But every vaccinated person I know who has had Covid has had a very mild illness.

We have had a fantastic vaccination programme. The vulnerable are being offered boosters.

We do not need to destroy the economy and peoples family life to prevent an illness that is not causing more deaths than flu, and could cause a lot fewer if all those who are able to be vaxxed got vaxxed.

[quote CarryOnNurse20]@TheEvilPea
I agree. A friend who works in ITU said they have stopped bothering to have the 'why didn't you have the vaccine' conversation. Patients inevitably come in wishing they had had it and begging to be given it (too late by then). But sympathy from staff is waning fast.[/quote]
Your post is also very telling in that you'd have to be extremely thick to think a vaccine could be administered and help you when you are already infected. Anti vaxxers - like Brexiteers - insist relentlessly that they know exactly what they are doing/ are making informed decisions etc. Asking for a vaccine when you're already sick suggests otherwise, as does the bafflement of Brexitt viters at empty shelves and inflation and falling living standards.

It's very hard to be sympathetic to people who make idiotic decisions that negatively impact everyone else while they simultaneously insist they knew exactly what they were doing.

@CarryOnNurse20

I cant imagine them bringing in severe restrictions.

It's now a war on the unvaccinated and HCPs are losing a lot of patience. I have a lot of friends/family in the NHS- the vast vast majority of seriously ill people are unvaccinated. Most vaccinated people will not adjust their behaviour to protect them (reasonably so?).

Masks, SD with strangers, one way systems- no problem. I try to do this day to day anyway. I cycle to avoid public transport etc.

I completely agree. Some on here call me anti-vax because I don't believe covid vaccination should be forced, or lack of it punished, in most situations. But the flip side is that those who make the decision need to own the practical consequences, and if the consequences are getting covid and dying, then I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility to curtail their own life to prevent that from happening.

I’m not sure that criminalising people for seeing their family during the winter is for the greater good. The vast majority of people will be negatively impacted by this rule and not protected by it and for the state to routinely exercise the power to ban normal (and often essential) every day interactions fundamentally damages the relationship between individual and state and the fabric of society itself.

I won't be. After having both jabs and the booster I'm as safe as I'll get. My wider family know my vaccination status and I know theirs, the risk is ours to take. What was the point of the vaccinations if it means that we are in the same position as last year?

I completely agree. Some on here call me anti-vax because I don't believe covid vaccination should be forced, or lack of it punished, in most situations. But the flip side is that those who make the decision need to own the practical consequences, and if the consequences are getting covid and dying, then I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility to curtail their own life to prevent that from happening.

And part of those consequences should be that such people do not take up hospital/ intensive care beds that are needed by vaccinated people or people who could not be vaccinated, who need treatment for Covid or other health issues.

@PurpleDaisies

But complying is just enabling the government to carry on placing the burden on the public to keep the wolves from the door of the NHS. If people comply, they'll know they can rely on annual winter lockdowns for ever more and continue to underfund and under-resource.

You seem to be suggesting we let infections run riot to show the government how bad a state the nhs is in. You do realise that could result in thousands of deaths?

The alternative is to ban more and more activities that might theoretically put someone in hospital, on the grounds that the NHS can't handle it. Should they to lower speed limits and ban alcohol for that reason, too? If NHS capacity is considered a good enough reason to ban things, there's no logical reason for it to stop with covid.

@PurpleOkapi I agree. I will argue forever that people should be free to make their own choices regarding their own health/medication/vaccination. That is absolutely vital in civilised society. I disagree with your further points inasmuch as I support the use of 'vaccine passports' if they are shown to reduce risk and covid rates/deaths do not increase when large numbers of vaccinated individuals can meet. I hope provisions are made for those who genuinely cannot have the vaccine due to allergy/illness/contraindications. If life becomes uncomfortable/you cannot access everywhere due to your decision to be unvaccinated unfortunately that just needs to be another consideration included when people choose whether or not to be vaccinated. If this is what ultimately 'forces' some people to have the jab who otherwise wouldn't then so be it. Having the vaccination so you can go to festival with the side effects of not dying/becoming seriously ill with covid is no bad thing IMO.

@TheEvilPea

I completely agree. Some on here call me anti-vax because I don't believe covid vaccination should be forced, or lack of it punished, in most situations. But the flip side is that those who make the decision need to own the practical consequences, and if the consequences are getting covid and dying, then I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility to curtail their own life to prevent that from happening.

And part of those consequences should be that such people do not take up hospital/ intensive care beds that are needed by vaccinated people or people who could not be vaccinated, who need treatment for Covid or other health issues.

I agree, but only to a point. When the system is overloaded to the point where those who need care are forced to go without it, I'm fine with sending those at fault for their own conditions to the back of the line. But I don't think that should be limited to foregoing covid vaccination. It should also apply to drug overdoses and other substance issues, car accidents caused by reckless driving or substance abuse, obesity, and arguably even pregnancy. If judgments of fault are going to factor into a person's medical care, there should be a consistent rule, not one rule for covid and another rule for bad non-covid-related life choices.

I don’t mind wearing a mask, social distancing etc but there is no way I am not seeing my kids and grandkids for months on end again.

•The alternative is to ban more and more activities that might theoretically put someone in hospital, on the grounds that the NHS can't handle it. Should they to lower speed limits and ban alcohol for that reason, too? If NHS capacity is considered a good enough reason to ban things, there's no logical reason for it to stop with covid.

Exactly. Completely illogical. A more sensible answer would be to implement a more effective healthcare model that can cope with demand adequately and has better patient outcomes, like the hybrid models in the majority of European countries.