COVID infected child coming into school

[Dancerinthedark01]

Sorry - rubbish title

But DD11 just came home and says BoyA came into school this morning saying his whole family has COVID. He was late in because he’d just been tested. He then sat there sniffing and squinting his eyes. DD’s description.

Then half an hour later he was taken out of school because test came back as positive.

Is this normal practice now?

But it’s not bullshit? It’s true

That's weird, I attached a pic to the post of what Jenny Harries said but it didn't show.

Chief Deputy Medical Officer Jenny Harries said there was more chance of a child being hit by a bus than catching covid at school.

Which is clearly woefully, awfully wrong. People have been wheeling out 'more likely to be hit by a bus/struck by lightning' in various comparisons and having to keep amending it because it's clearly a bullshit claim designed to dismiss concerns. Now we are really dredging the bottom of the barrel by going to death rate comparisons as if that is the only concern any parent should have regarding their kid catching covid.

And masks would stop some children getting it, that is what 'reduce transmission' means

@MarshaBradyo

They went to the trouble of briefing CMO to rethink and prepare in advance

What is slowing it down?

Lack of political will Lack of money Lack of care

You don’t even have to compare with Europe, within this country with the same laws and resources, why have Scotland and Wales taken it seriously and have vaccinated nearly half their teens while England has done just over a tenth? What’s behind this difference?

@rruth. Yes. A PP said about reluctantly accepting that all kids will get it, so not unreasonable to send kid in whilst waiting for a PCR. It shouldn't be inevitable.

@rrhuth

And masks would stop some children getting it, that is what 'reduce transmission' means

No it slows it down and flattens the curve

The only thing that stops the increase like that is the level of immunity reached

Ie the same number of children did get it

Masks wouldn’t have stopped your dc getting it

You can’t possibly know that.

Did I say my child is more likely to be hit by a bus than catch Covid at school @noblegiraffe ?
I’ve asked you not to misquote me. Or liken my comments to what Jenny Harries said. Because they are completely different. I don’t agree with what she said. Obviously that was a load of crap.

I said I worry about many other things more for my very healthy children than Covid in general. Which is my own personal opinion based on my circumstances and what I have witnessed. Others may have a different view.

But @MarshaBradyo if your dc will get it anyway, would you prefer it to be before or after they’ve had access to a vaccine that will reduce their chances of hospitalization by a huge amount (us data) and long covid (Israel data)?

Because the govt was happy to delay freedom day to give more voting age adults time to get the vaccine, to protect more people.

I didn't misquote you, Delatron. I didn't reference you at all in my comment and I don't actually know what you said.

@Howshouldibehave

Masks wouldn’t have stopped your dc getting it

You can’t possibly know that.

Do you think that delta, which is transmissible enough to still spread in level 4 lockdown, can be completely stopped by a mask in a classroom?

Slowed slightly if being generous (again see Scotland)

Oh that’s strange at @noblegiraffe it was just after I mentioned that I was more worried about x/yZ for my child than Covid that you referenced road accidents and Jenny Harris. What a random comment from you then. I kind of glossed over it as it contained the usual sweary ranting from you. My mistake!

@PersephoneJames

But *@MarshaBradyo* if your dc will get it anyway, would you prefer it to be before or after they’ve had access to a vaccine that will reduce their chances of hospitalization by a huge amount (us data) and long covid (Israel data)?

Because the govt was happy to delay freedom day to give more voting age adults time to get the vaccine, to protect more people.

I think it’s a shame if we could go faster with vaccination and we are not.

JCVI did the work they did and I still appreciate expertise even if not a timely result.

At this point masks aren’t the answer but if we could go faster with vaccination that would be good. I’m not sure what is slowing it down - what are the barriers

Oh. My. God.

If vaccinations reduce the number getting it, and masks do, why do people think exactly the same number of people will get it if we vaccinate and wear masks . And if vaccinations make it milder, why wouldn't it be better to catch it post-vaccination rather than pre?

It's like the last 18 months never happened for some people. We have vaccines now.

I was discussing it with Waher last night and quoted Bizawit both who quoted me, so I was responding to their posts, Delatron, to explain the fact that a picture I posted hadn't attached.

Nothing to do with you.

Not heard that schools are Covid safe recently. Have people suddenly realised they never were ? Shame school staff were put at such risk in the spring with no vaccines and told to leave if they didn't like it. Because kids can't transmit it.
We tried to warn you this would happen. We tried really hard. 1 in 15 secondary aged kids currently has Covid. It's a disgrace, that was preventable.

Ok. Well I was the one who brought up road traffic accidents as well as being mugged and other illnesses as a list of things that I worry more about for my child versus Covid. Not catching Covid but them suffering ill effects.

Then you said ‘people are still peddling this road accident bullshit’ or something along those lines. Then the others clarified that it wasn’t ‘catching Covid versus road traffic accident’ but serious effects from Covid.

Anyway it doesn’t matter. It’s my own personal view.

All this warn you stuff..

That a pre Winter peak would happen? The sharp curve linked below shows infection peaks then drops and immunity is higher for winter period.

1 in 12, Mumsneedwine

@Delatron where was the sweary ranting from @noblegiraffe. You are just making things up

My kid’s school is perfectly safe. Define safe? Yes there’s been quite a few cases. But I’ve never felt it wasn’t safe.

@noblegiraffe worse than when I last looked 😞

@MarshaBradyowarnes warned that kids would get sick in large numbers. When no measures are taken to prevent spread. No other age group is suffering the same rise. Some kids are v v ill (one of my tutor group said she'd rather sit her mocks again than have Covid).

@Delatron I hope your kids stay healthy. Unfortunately for a few Covid has proved life changing. Out of 30 in my tutor group 6 can no longer taste or smell (have been this way for months).

Yes @mumsneedwine it is common to lose sense of taste and smell for months. Not down playing how awful that is.

We don’t seem to have had that in our school but maybe it’s less common amongst younger kids.

@rrhuth

I can't disagree with you re vaccines for 12+. If Government had said it would maintain masks and other measures whilst the vaccine was rolled out, personally I wouldn't have objected.