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COVID infected child coming into school

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Dancerinthedark01 · 15/10/2021 15:52

Sorry - rubbish title

But DD11 just came home and says BoyA came into school this morning saying his whole family has COVID. He was late in because he’d just been tested. He then sat there sniffing and squinting his eyes. DD’s description.

Then half an hour later he was taken out of school because test came back as positive.

Is this normal practice now?

OP posts:
Iggly · 16/10/2021 18:08

Letting it rip is one thing.

Letting it rip without decent knowledge about where or how it spreads is another.

Letting it rip without having proper testing in place is disgraceful.

Give me the ability as a parent to know when my child has been exposed to covid within school and then I can decide whether to test. This isn’t happening now - we have to wait or hope we hear on the grapevine as to whether our secondary school children have possibly been affected.

This government have the most appalling mindset. I just don’t get it.

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2021 18:11

Re post below and NZ yes they’ve kept it out but what will gappen next is what happens in every western country with delta

Hence the expert saying get vaccinated.

Children will get it and minority communities are at higher risk. It’s not going to be an easy ride, as it was.

www.npr.org/2021/10/13/1045320600/maori-leader-calls-new-zealands-covid-19-strategy-a-death-warrant-for-her-people?t=1634404273934

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2021 18:18

Can someone who says ‘letting it rip’ etc say how much slower they think transmission in class would be with mitigations and why getting it now v say three months (or your timescale) is better

Kitcat122 · 16/10/2021 18:43

From a different perspective it's miserable working in school at the moment. We have so much staff illness and (unvaxed) staff isolating. TAs taking classes. Not enough cover for our proper breaks. I've never seen my colleagues so down. But there's nothing we can change so we have to get on with it.

TheSunIsStillShining · 16/10/2021 18:44

don't need to guess: look at other countries who have mitigations in place from japan to germany. much much lower numbers overall

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2021 18:45

Don’t need to guess what?

What delay would ventilation and masks bring - eg Ds got it last week. How much flatter would curve be and maybe he’d get it Feb instead?

Why do people feel so much better about that

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2021 18:46

For their own dc obvs.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 16/10/2021 18:51

@MarshaBradyo

It’s about viral load as well though, so may get covid even with ventilation and masks but the viral load would be way less

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2021 18:56

Hmm re that

Ds and his friends sit in a new building without opening windows (a good idea at the time I’m sure)

Yes they all got it but now back after 10 days. He did feel a bit rotten (tired, cough etc) but I didn’t get the impression he or his friends got a big whack of viral load.

Is there data on children in a room and their symptoms post catching Covid mask / windows v not?

Changing his school would cost a lot btw and our dc will pay £ later so it needs to bring them benefit, not adults.

Lastly how long will Germany etc keep young children in masks? Are people thinking years?

MercyBooth · 16/10/2021 18:58

You really should care a little more about vulnerable communities in relation to this issue if you are what you say

Does that care extend to the people in working class jobs like delivery drivers (who were delivering stuff to the middle classes in the lockdowns) Does that care mean that next time (as lockdowns have been normalised now) the ppl in working class jobs should lockdown too.

rrhuth · 16/10/2021 19:00

@TheSunIsStillShining

don't need to guess: look at other countries who have mitigations in place from japan to germany. much much lower numbers overall
In comparison to Europe, UK hospitalisations are 6x higher, deaths 3x higher.

Personally I'd feel far better if people weren't dying in ambulances outside A&E, the high cases in schools are contributing to that.

Plus by next year, even the snail-paced teen jab rollout should have finished, meaning teens could avoid it, and risks of long symptoms are halved.

What the UK is doing is wrong and damaging.

jumpbounce · 16/10/2021 19:02

@Thehistorygirls

Yes, what *@RichTeaRichTea* said - unfortunately, but very understandably, parents care more about keeping their jobs that feed their own kids than the risk of passing covid on to other people's kids. If we are living with covid then this is what it looks like. Parents cannot be expected to keep children home with a cold through the entirety of the autumn and winter - they would lose their jobs.
Some of these children being sent home are also very unwell and it's not necessarily got anything to do with covid and of course same in our school, parents refusing to pick them up. So yes it seems some parents care more about their job than their own child who is really unwell and doesn't need to be sat in school. We have children vomitting before school starts and then when you ask them they say they were sick all night but parents send them in regardless and then don't answer the phone to pick them up again! As a parent with a child with underlying health conditions requiring me to take lots of leave from work and even lose a job because of it... absolutely nothing should ever come before the health of your child.
seb342 · 16/10/2021 19:03

Took my Dd for a pcr test last week after a positive lft and the pcr came back negative. Fast forward to today and I've had a text message calling her back for another pcr test because the result may have been wrong. She's over the 10 day isolation period now anyway so I won't be taking her for another one but it does make you wonder how reliable testing actually is and I mean this both false positives and false negatives.

Delatron · 16/10/2021 19:06

I wonder what will happen when other countries get rid of masks and mitigations. Only then can we compare.

Unless Germany/France/Spain are planning to keep young children permanently in face masks?

itsgettingwierd · 16/10/2021 19:19

@brusselsprout5

I'm a teacher & yes this is what it's like now. Children being sent to school unwell, dosed up on calpol too as their parents insist they are fine but actually even if it's not Covid are very unwell. Parents refusing to pick up children who are complaining about being really unwell.
We have this too.

Poor kids are really I'll but as no cough or temp they are in. Not really able to say able smell etc.

We've also had a kid sent home Monday mid morning for vomiting. Returned Wednesday Angry

MercyBooth · 16/10/2021 19:26

@jumpbounce yeah cos there is loads of social housing available to people who risk losing their homes.

People who kept voting for the erosion of workers rights.............this is on YOU.

Warhertisuff · 16/10/2021 19:51

@toomuchlaundry

We reduce the number of car accidents/injuries/deaths by mitigating factors eg speed limits, seatbelts, safety features in cars etc. Maybe we should take them away and then it could be a fairer comparison! I am sure most parents wouldn't want that.
Firstly, the absolute chance of being seriously injured in a car crash over a lifetime is reduced by mitigations such as seatbelts and speed limits. Whereas the best that can reasonably be expected from mitigation measures in schools is a delay of a few months.... Secondly, seat belts etc are permanent measures... As Covid is here to stay, presumably you're arguing for permanent restrictions... continued testing, masks, social distancing and isolation etc.

The good news is that even without restrictions (or at least only few) London cases are slowly falling. Cases won't disappear completely due to the nature of the virus, but I believe we can expect to reach an equilibrium where cases end up much lower than they currently are in many places.... the current surges in schools where there remain significant numbers of "Covid virgins" won't be a permanent feature.

noblegiraffe · 16/10/2021 20:22

Good to see the old 'kid more likely to be in a car accident' bullshit is being wheeled out. Wonder if Jenny Harries ever retracted this howler.

Warhertisuff · 16/10/2021 21:15

@noblegiraffe

Good to see the old 'kid more likely to be in a car accident' bullshit is being wheeled out. Wonder if Jenny Harries ever retracted this howler.
Well, 1 in 250,000 children tragically died in car accidents last year (52 out of 12,000,000). The figures for Covid is 1 in 500,000, so it seems a reasonable comparison to me.
noblegiraffe · 16/10/2021 21:36

That wasn't the comparison being made by Jenny Harries, nor the PP though, was it, Warher?

Keep fiddling it to try to make it work though...

TheSunIsStillShining · 16/10/2021 21:39

@Warhertisuff
It has been established many many times that it is not kids death that is the most worrying. I think everyone agrees that thankfully kid deaths are very low.
So why keep pedaling this?

I have included earlier today the injury figures - obv. that doesn't suit your narrative so you ignore it. But when comparing it is a much realistic comparison. And it is still very far from realistic because of all the mentioned safety precautions in place.

rrhuth · 16/10/2021 22:04

@Delatron

I wonder what will happen when other countries get rid of masks and mitigations. Only then can we compare.

Unless Germany/France/Spain are planning to keep young children permanently in face masks?

They'll prioritise the health of children, unlike here. But all their children will be vaccinated, in the end, if they follow the US.
Warhertisuff · 16/10/2021 22:50

@noblegiraffe

That wasn't the comparison being made by Jenny Harries, nor the PP though, was it, Warher?

Keep fiddling it to try to make it work though...

I'm afraid I have no idea of what she said on the matter... I don't follow her that closely! I was merely saying that the comparison wasn't the absurd one you indicated it was. Of course there is more to both car accidents and Covid than death.
Bizawit · 16/10/2021 22:56

@noblegiraffe

Good to see the old 'kid more likely to be in a car accident' bullshit is being wheeled out. Wonder if Jenny Harries ever retracted this howler.
But it’s not bullshit? It’s true 💁🏼‍♀️