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COVID - should I cancel Holliday?

107 replies

Whowherewhywhat · 11/10/2021 15:07

Hi, unfortunately both my DS and I got positive PCRs last week.
To cut a long story short, does anyone know how long after you’ve had symptoms / positive PCR test, will either a LF or PCR test continue to show positive?
I ask, as both our isolation periods end this Friday 15th Oct but we are due to fly on holiday on the 23rd Oct and whilst I am double jabbed so I won’t need a PCR before I fly, my DS isn’t as he is 16 (he had the jab booked for the day he got a positive!).
Do you think a PCR is still likely to show positive then? Trying to work out whether to cancel holiday or not? Thanks

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FeckinCovid · 13/10/2021 07:46

I spent an hour last night reading lots of different posts on that Facebook group and the way I read it was some people with say it's fine it tested positive over 14 days and others not. So confusing

rookiemere · 13/10/2021 08:36

I'm a bag of nerves. DS had his PCR last night- we're meant to go on Friday.

One thing I would say about the FB page , I don't think anyone is a paid professional so there may be different opinions, but it is good to get information from people who have already flown.

DoraMaude · 13/10/2021 08:52

I would agree with the comments about the Facebook page. The moderators do a good job, but they are not experts and there is often incorrect or misleading advice on there. The moderators are very on top of it though.

I have travelled a lot in the last few months, but I don't understand anyone trying to get around the rules. They are there to protect us and help us continue to travel. I'd be fed up if found myself sitting next to someone on a plane for a few hours who had tested positive within the previous 14 days.

Whowherewhywhat · 13/10/2021 10:40

Agreed, and no one in my family has tested positive in the last 14 days, but they have tested positive prior to that, hence why I have been trying to get information, which is not forth coming from authorities. I am trying to do the right thing!!

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DoraMaude · 13/10/2021 10:44

Whowhere i didn't really mean you, I meant generally people who are trying to get around the rules. I know you're trying to do the right thing. Sorry, I didn't make that clear.

Whowherewhywhat · 13/10/2021 10:47

Sorry DoraMaude didn’t mean to get prickly , it’s such a stressful situation, wish we hadn’t booked now to be honest….

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rookiemere · 13/10/2021 10:53

I know @Whowherewhywhat it does feel
So stressful. I'll be gutted for DS and in fact all of us if we can't go. He's normally so blasé about everything but genuinely excited about this as his pals family are coming too.

Whowherewhywhat · 13/10/2021 12:47

Hope you get to go on Friday rookiemere, fingers crossed for you 🤞😊 love to know how you get on if you have chance 😊

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rookiemere · 13/10/2021 13:11

Promise I'll update when we get the test results
@Whowherewhywhat , although apparently they can arrive up to 10pm and are only guaranteed to arrive within 48 hrs. Being a bit of a worst case scenario planner, I've found another ( more expensive) company that guarantees same day.

rookiemere · 13/10/2021 14:34

Hurrah test results through and it is negative- was rather unprofessional in a meeting when I saw the email appear.

Whowherewhywhat · 13/10/2021 15:22

Lol 😂, that’s great news 👍😁 enjoy your holiday 🎉🎉

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FeckinCovid · 13/10/2021 16:23

Hey @whowerewhywhat did you get any response from the spth email. I've had nothing

freckles20 · 13/10/2021 17:44

@rookiemere great news!

I just wanted to mention that has been touched on already on this thread bug which is so easy to be tripped up by.

Some countries will accept a Covid Recovery Certificate in place of a negative PCR for non double jabbed people (including non jabbed, or single jabbed 12-15 year olds).

BUT in England (not sure about Wales, Scotland or Ireland) you can only get a UK Covid Recovery Certificate. This is different to an EU Covid Recovery Certificate. So to be clear, in England you cannot currently get an EU Covid Recovery Certificate.

Some countries will ONLY accept an EU Covid recovery Certificate, NOT the UK version.

I hope that makes sense. Apologies for the bold shouting- I just wanted to be clear as I've spent ages trying to understands this ahead of an upcoming possible holiday YP Cyprus with recently Covid positive 12-15 year olds.

Watapalava · 13/10/2021 17:45

The Spth has no link whatsoever to anything I’m

Not sure why anyone is even giving it a second thought

Watapalava · 13/10/2021 17:46

In UK

freckles20 · 13/10/2021 20:19

@Watapalava I'm not absolutely sure what you mean but if you mean that the UK has nothing to do either the EU then I understand where you are coming from. However, the UK was supposed to be part of the EU scheme for the EU Covid Recovery Pass, but we haven't managed to get our act together and join. We are still intending to join, but there's no set date for that.

roses2 · 13/10/2021 20:24

I hope that makes sense. Apologies for the bold shouting- I just wanted to be clear as I've spent ages trying to understands this ahead of an upcoming possible holiday YP Cyprus with recently Covid positive 12-15 year olds.

I was in Cyprus over the summer. There are so many Brits there they are familiar with the UK recovery certificate and accepted it at the airport and all shops I went to.

Watapalava · 13/10/2021 20:45

No what I mean is that I don’t know why anyone is worrying about the spth form abs the ‘are you a contact within 14 days question’

I can’t believe anyone is considering cancelling holiday based on being a contact

Spain can’t check so would never know

Most people in this country will be a contact of someone you just likely don’t know it

1/20 kids have covid so anyone with kids likely has a contact on their family

If everyone cancelled coa they’re a contact then no one would be able to go! Currently most insurance doesn’t pay out for being a contact anymore since it’s no requirement to isolate

freckles20 · 14/10/2021 02:23

@roses2 Cyprus stopped accepting the UK Covid Recovery Pass when the the UK failed to join the EU scheme.

Out tour operator, the Travel Pass and the Cypriot helpline have all said a flat 'no' wrt the UK certificate. Believe me, if we thought we could use it we would.

freckles20 · 14/10/2021 02:24

@Watapalava

No what I mean is that I don’t know why anyone is worrying about the spth form abs the ‘are you a contact within 14 days question’

I can’t believe anyone is considering cancelling holiday based on being a contact

Spain can’t check so would never know

Most people in this country will be a contact of someone you just likely don’t know it

1/20 kids have covid so anyone with kids likely has a contact on their family

If everyone cancelled coa they’re a contact then no one would be able to go! Currently most insurance doesn’t pay out for being a contact anymore since it’s no requirement to isolate

They can easily check if you are a parent of a child who has recently tested positive for Covid!
Watapalava · 14/10/2021 07:14

How can they check?! They have no way of checking!

Watapalava · 14/10/2021 07:17

Do people really belive with DPA abs Gdpr that people’s health records are being shared with airline staff abs other countries

Of course not

Millions fly every day!

FeckinCovid · 14/10/2021 07:58

We are going to try and move ours. Other child has also just tested positive. Although we don't fly for 16 days I will have had contact with two people who have covid and they are very close contacts as they are my children. If the contact was someone I spent 15 mins with I may feel different. I don't feel comfortable lying on a government form and I also don't fancy getting on a plane when I know I've been a close contact and even though double jabbed, could have covid. Also don't really fancy being unwell abroad. It just feels too close for me

I know lots of people would just tick no on the form and risk it and that's fine and their choice. But not the right choice for me

rookiemere · 14/10/2021 08:31

@FeckinCovid I totally respect your decision not to go, but I'm sure that the 14 days refers to when they are first diagnosed with covid.

Logically if your DCs contracted covid 16 days ago, if you were going to catch it , it would be before the 14 days. If you're fully vaccinated and test negative on a LFT, I don't think you're lying to go.

Emsmaman · 14/10/2021 08:38

There might not be an actual way of checking but I couldn't in good faith, sign a legal document claiming I've not been in contact with covid when I have a dc at home with it. Also my read of "14 days" is that you've had contact with someone at any point of that 14 days, regardless of where they are in the covid "cycle". Keep in mind 14 days isn't a magic cut off that you can't catch covid. I believe Hong Kong still have hotel quarantine set at 21 days. Also I personally know people who came down with covid on day 11, 12 etc. Of their children's isolation