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Refusing to be vaccinated or tested

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WTFCanIDoAboutThis · 28/09/2021 21:11

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Does anyone know someone who refuses to be vaccinated or tested and if so, how is it impacting their day to day life?

OP posts:
dogsrock15 · 28/09/2021 21:15

Yes I know a few people. it doesn't have any daily impact on their lives

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WTFCanIDoAboutThis · 28/09/2021 21:17

@dogsrock15 is the refusal for any particular reason and do you think they would ever change their mind?

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ShinyThingsDistractMe · 28/09/2021 21:19

I know of one. Doesn't impact their life at all because they are probably a super spreader and just going about their usual day to day life.

If they feel unwell and go to work they just say "my lateral flow which they never tested is negative"

They are a twat 🤦🏻‍♀️

shauabs · 28/09/2021 21:21

Nope don't know any

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 21:31

I haven't had the vaccine or been tested - reasons why

Millions of people have had covid so what logic is there to testing for something everyone will get anyway.

Reasons for not getting a vaccine is I'm not worried about covid, the vaccine worries me more than a virus that has an average mortality age of 83. The vaccine doesn't last long with immunity is another issue and have no intention of taking boosters of the rest of my life for a disease that doesn't worry me

Each to their own I say

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WTFCanIDoAboutThis · 28/09/2021 21:41

@Jennifermadison I agree about each to their own. My question for you is how this is impacting your life. Do you ever plan to travel? If either testing or vaccination became mandatory in your field of work would you change your position?

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Buzzinwithbez · 28/09/2021 21:42

Yes and not at all...They also wouldn't be out and about with symptoms.

We've just been exposed to someone who is vaccinated and had cold symptoms. They happened to have covid but didn't think to isolate with their cold. Neither vaccinating or being prepared to test kept us and many others from being exposed in this case.

riveted1 · 28/09/2021 21:42

@Jennifermadison

I haven't had the vaccine or been tested - reasons why

Millions of people have had covid so what logic is there to testing for something everyone will get anyway.

Reasons for not getting a vaccine is I'm not worried about covid, the vaccine worries me more than a virus that has an average mortality age of 83. The vaccine doesn't last long with immunity is another issue and have no intention of taking boosters of the rest of my life for a disease that doesn't worry me

Each to their own I say

a virus that has an average mortality age of 83 This doesn't mean what you think it means. A significant number of people who are an unacceptable(?!) age have died, or been left with long term disability.

Fair enough you don't want to be vaccinated. Definitely not fair enough to not consider testing as an alternative, particularly if you've had COVID symptoms so presumably have been avoiding isolating if you're infectious.

Each to their own doesn't work in an infectious disease pandemic.

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 21:50

[quote WTFCanIDoAboutThis]@Jennifermadison I agree about each to their own. My question for you is how this is impacting your life. Do you ever plan to travel? If either testing or vaccination became mandatory in your field of work would you change your position?[/quote]
I used to enjoy international travel pre covid but appreciate this is now close to impossible for me. I'm not sure even if I was double jabbed I would want to travel with all the faffing about and different covid measures implemented in other countries.

I would be prepared to undergo tests if required for work but probably not the vaccine. My personal view is if we all aren't going to get boosters, the requirement for vaccination may significantly reduce as eventually most of us will be unvaccinated with dropping immunity. I'm not a doctor so no idea how long immunity lasts but it seems to be a matter of months rather than years. If that's the case then there won't be much logic for vaccine passports either domestically or internationally as I can't imagine the majority of the population will keep taking boosters although I may be wrong

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 21:54

@riveted1 A significant number of people die of a myriad of different things. If you drive a car you are contributing to them as just one eg with air pollution killing thousands.

The OP asked the question and I answered it, the fact you think differently is irrelevant to my view and I am happy to be in a minority if need be. A disease that has an average age of death of 83 doesn't worry me so have acted accordingly. If someone feels differently then presumably they are vaccinated so it's irrelevant what I think. If we were all acting in the aid of the greater good then every winter no one would go anywhere with flu etc killing thousands of elderly/vulnerable

Againstmachine · 28/09/2021 22:12

I've had vaccines not done a test at all. Never been no reason too.

XenoBitch · 28/09/2021 22:17

I have known a few people (vaccinated) who have come down with symptoms and refused to get tested on the basis that "it can't be Covid as I have had the vaccine".
If I get Covid, it will be from these people.

XenoBitch · 28/09/2021 22:18

Forgot to say, I am unvaccinated and also never had a test. Never had need to have a test.
Neither impact my day to day life.

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 22:19

I think a problem with the covid symptoms is many resemble a common cold

MrsTesfaye · 28/09/2021 22:27

Not had the vaccine, and i never test. Had covid in April 2020, I've literally had worse colds.

Does not impact my daily life whatsoever.

IncredulousOne · 28/09/2021 22:51

@Againstmachine

I've had vaccines not done a test at all. Never been no reason too.
You can still catch and transmit the virus if you've been vaccinated. In fact, you're more likely to be asymptomatic if vaccinated so wouldn't know you were spreading it unless you got tested...
XenoBitch · 28/09/2021 22:56

You can still catch and transmit the virus if you've been vaccinated. In fact, you're more likely to be asymptomatic if vaccinated so wouldn't know you were spreading it unless you got tested...

But why would you get a test if you don't have symptoms?

2lsinllama · 28/09/2021 23:03

The virus may have an average mortality rate of 83, but that doesn’t mean anyone is safe from it.
My previously fit and healthy DH caught Covid at the start of the year. Thought he’d shake it off like a cold or flu. Ended up being blue lighted to hospital and the paramedics actually thought he would die on the way there. Spend several weeks in ICU and months at home recovering.
No one is completely safe from the virus. I wouldn’t wish what we went through on my worst enemy. Don’t have the vaccine if you don’t want, that’s your choice. But don’t just thing that because you are young and healthy that you will be fine.

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 23:06

Clearly covid is dangerous to a small subset of people who will presumably be for the most part identified due to either age or health related issues and continue to receive boosters.

For those who aren't getting boosters ( the majority of adults) immunity will wane so we will effectively in a short period of time have a small group of people who are continually receiving boosters "protected" and the rest with declining immunity from the vaccine. I can't see how even with international travel " vaccine passports " can be implemented long term unless people accept they will be taking boosters for the rest of their lives. I don't want to receive jabs for the rest of my life to access basic things in society which sounds more like a horror film than a sensible policy for a virus resembling a cold in the vast majority of healthy people

PurpleDaisies · 28/09/2021 23:07

But why would you get a test if you don't have symptoms?

LFTs are freely available to use twice a week in England. It’s recommended by the NHS that we all do them.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing/regular-rapid-coronavirus-tests-if-you-do-not-have-symptoms/

userperuser · 28/09/2021 23:09

If we were all acting in the aid of the greater good then every winter no one would go anywhere with flu etc killing thousands of elderly/vulnerable

Ah yes the greater good being constantly preached on these boards. The current panic buying of fuel (previously bog roll and pasta) demonstrates nicely that not many are acting for the ‘greater good’.

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 23:12

@2lsinllama

The virus may have an average mortality rate of 83, but that doesn’t mean anyone is safe from it. My previously fit and healthy DH caught Covid at the start of the year. Thought he’d shake it off like a cold or flu. Ended up being blue lighted to hospital and the paramedics actually thought he would die on the way there. Spend several weeks in ICU and months at home recovering. No one is completely safe from the virus. I wouldn’t wish what we went through on my worst enemy. Don’t have the vaccine if you don’t want, that’s your choice. But don’t just thing that because you are young and healthy that you will be fine.
I'm sorry to hear about your DH but the statistics still show that the chances of suffering severe complications from covid are tiny for the vast majority of people. My next door neighbour sadly passed away with breast cancer in her late 20s pre covid which should remind us there are many medical horrors out there waiting for us all eventually far worse than covid in terms of both prognosis and probability of contracting leading to serious health issues.

Life is finite and the hysteria now surrounding covid is not proportional to the virus itself considering all of the medical information we have available

Jennifermadison · 28/09/2021 23:13

@userperuser

If we were all acting in the aid of the greater good then every winter no one would go anywhere with flu etc killing thousands of elderly/vulnerable

Ah yes the greater good being constantly preached on these boards. The current panic buying of fuel (previously bog roll and pasta) demonstrates nicely that not many are acting for the ‘greater good’.

I agree
thaegumathteth · 28/09/2021 23:40

@MrsTesfaye

Not had the vaccine, and i never test. Had covid in April 2020, I've literally had worse colds.

Does not impact my daily life whatsoever.

How do you know it was covid?
sleepwouldbenice · 29/09/2021 00:50

@ShinyThingsDistractMe

I know of one. Doesn't impact their life at all because they are probably a super spreader and just going about their usual day to day life.

If they feel unwell and go to work they just say "my lateral flow which they never tested is negative"

They are a twat 🤦🏻‍♀️

Yep And probably have a great list of logic and misinformation to support their approach