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Pfizer vaccine "safe" for children aged 5-11

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marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 15:55

I am sorry, but I want to see more than "promising results" in a trial of 2,267 participants before I'll be letting my young children have this vaccine.

Before anyone starts, I'm not anti vax, I've had the jab, but I really really feel uneasy about this move.

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MichelleScarn · 20/09/2021 18:53

@gogohm

I have no issue with parents refusing to consent for their kids to have it but expect those children to be refused entry to high risk situations. No way do I want to be sat on a flight for instance with unvaccinated children if there's a safe vaccine (whilst there isn't the situation is different. The vaccine works incredibly well but the virus can mutate so we need to reduce the reservoir of contagion
@gogohm what do you think people including children who can't have the vaccine should be allowed to do?
Dettolmenace · 20/09/2021 18:55

@TreaslakeandBack

Very pro vax- volunteer vaccinator and double jabbed, will have my booster soon. DS had asymptomatic Covid in May. I will be pro vax for him but not yet, I’d like to see a bit more evidence first. If the vaccines stopped you getting it fine, I would probably i it to protect his grandparents. It’s doesn’t though so why risk his health over something that may do more harm than good to him personally. Why did the JCVI say no to vaccinating teenage boys unless there was a worry?
So your son has already had it. He had zero symptoms yet you are still considering him having it. What benefit will he get from a vaccine for a virus he is clearly asymptomatic too? Or will give him the vaccine for the benefit of other people and is he ok with that?
MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 20/09/2021 18:55

"The evil eye of Sauron" Grin

Come on, now.

Evesgarden · 20/09/2021 19:11

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/864067-39-Govenment-to-offer-swine-flu-vaccinations-to-under-5s?msgid=17583902#17583902

Really interesting thread from 2009. People are discussing the swine flu vaccinations aimed at children - just like they are doing on this thread. Little did they know that months down the line the data would start showing that some children developed life limiting Narcolepsy. The families of these children had to drag the government to high court three times to get recognition and compensation over a TEN year battle. The Government have only just paid out.

Looks like no one learned anything.

Barbie222 · 20/09/2021 19:13

Good news - we need as many protected as possible to reduce transmission and therefore the potential for new, serious mutations. It's also good news that flu is being given up to year 11 too. That's the big message here.

On here, there's been feet dragged and reluctance to make accommodation at every stage of the rollout of this vaccination, so I'm not surprised to see more of the same, but for the majority who want protection it's a no brainer.

PumpkinsGalore · 20/09/2021 19:14

I just love how you all fully believe you know better than actual QUALIFIED Virologists who have been developing vaccines & studying viruses their entire careers.
Truly, truly shocking and appalling behaviour

PumpkinsGalore · 20/09/2021 19:16

@beattieedny

My teen and younger child won't be having it. Teenager can overrule me of course, and that is his right, but I will be advising him against it. They don't need it. End of.
Whenever anyone ends a sentence with "...end of" it just makes me think of the Jeremy Kyle show 😂😂😂
PumpkinsGalore · 20/09/2021 19:18

@CarrieBlue

Great news, glad to see research doing exactly what it’s supposed to do and scientists carrying out their jobs as they are trained to. I know who I trust to know, rather then ‘reckon’, whether something is safe or not.
THIS

The self-appointed virologists storming round at the moment is becoming an entirely new pandemic of its own

SickAndTiredAgain · 20/09/2021 19:20

No way do I want to be sat on a flight for instance with unvaccinated children if there's a safe vaccine (whilst there isn't the situation is different.

Why is the situation different? The risk to you is the same.

FreshFreesias · 20/09/2021 19:20

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FreshFreesias · 20/09/2021 19:21

@PumpkinsGalore I’m afraid this kind of Covid cultist hysteria persuades no one.

SickAndTiredAgain · 20/09/2021 19:22

@SickAndTiredAgain

No way do I want to be sat on a flight for instance with unvaccinated children if there's a safe vaccine (whilst there isn't the situation is different.

Why is the situation different? The risk to you is the same.

That question wasn’t meant to sound snippy btw. It’s just something I don’t understand - my daughter isn’t vaccinated (she’s 2), if a vaccine was available why would I suddenly not be happy to be around an unvaccinated child?
MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 20/09/2021 19:23

@Evesgarden

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/864067-39-Govenment-to-offer-swine-flu-vaccinations-to-under-5s?msgid=17583902#17583902

Really interesting thread from 2009. People are discussing the swine flu vaccinations aimed at children - just like they are doing on this thread. Little did they know that months down the line the data would start showing that some children developed life limiting Narcolepsy. The families of these children had to drag the government to high court three times to get recognition and compensation over a TEN year battle. The Government have only just paid out.

Looks like no one learned anything.

Interesting article here which shows that a) that vaccine was not widely used, and b) also points out that the risk of narcolepsy was higher from contracting swine flu than from having the vaccine.

As with COVID and myocarditis.

GoldenOmber · 20/09/2021 19:32

I don’t see the JCVI adding it to the vaccine rollout for all under-12s in a hurry over here. Maybe it’ll end up like the chickenpox vaccine, where it’s available on the NHS for kids who might be vulnerable and other families can pay privately if they want it?

Good news for vulnerable kids though.

marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:33

Not happening here on my watch!

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gibletjane · 20/09/2021 19:38

Great news, glad to see research doing exactly what it’s supposed to do and scientists carrying out their jobs as they are trained to. I know who I trust to know, rather then ‘reckon’, whether something is safe or not.

Why don't you trust the JVCI?

marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:44

I don't get why they're looking for "emergency authorisation" authorisation to push it through, by Halloween?

It all seems far far too rushed

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/20/pfizer-covid-vaccine-children-5-to-11-trial

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marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:45

Is there something they're not telling us?

It's only weeks since kids were fine with covid

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Mojoj · 20/09/2021 19:46

Kids don't need to be vaccinated.

marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:48

And infants 6 months to 2 years are next for trial.

Massive appetite for it apparently, I doubt it!

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marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:49

It's made me really cross has this, am I'm vaccinated!

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marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 19:50

*and I'm vaccinated

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Whichjab · 20/09/2021 19:52

@Persecution

My teen dd has had dreadful issues after just one AZ vaccine
How did your teen get the AZ ??
Abraxan · 20/09/2021 19:54

@Mojoj

Kids don't need to be vaccinated.
Actually some very vulnerable children may benefit from the vaccine, but are not yet eligible.

Part of the trials will be looking at this. There will be trials and research done to determine how effective it is, and the risk v benefits for children of all ages and all health statuses.

The vaccine will not be mandatory.
We don't have any mandatory vaccinations for children, or the general public - this won't be any different.

All vaccines go through the same processes. These findings are just an early part of the process.

Abraxan · 20/09/2021 19:56

@marieantoinehairnet

It's made me really cross has this, am I'm vaccinated!
Why are you cross?

You aren't being forced to vaccinate your child. You never will be - as said, we have NO mandatory vaccines in this country and this won't become one either, not for children and not for the general public.

So, if it eventually gets offered - just say no. And let those parents who feel their children will benefit from it make their own choice too, rather than arguing to restrict the choice for everyone.