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Pfizer vaccine "safe" for children aged 5-11

108 replies

marieantoinehairnet · 20/09/2021 15:55

I am sorry, but I want to see more than "promising results" in a trial of 2,267 participants before I'll be letting my young children have this vaccine.

Before anyone starts, I'm not anti vax, I've had the jab, but I really really feel uneasy about this move.

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Covidworries · 20/09/2021 17:04

I would prefer mine go vacconated if it becomes available to their age group but 1 child has serious medical anxiety so I doubt they would cope with needle vaccination. They cant have the nasal flue spray due to panic attacks. They are CEV through so its a dilema.

TreaslakeandBack · 20/09/2021 17:07

Very pro vax- volunteer vaccinator and double jabbed, will have my booster soon.
DS had asymptomatic Covid in May. I will be pro vax for him but not yet, I’d like to see a bit more evidence first.
If the vaccines stopped you getting it fine, I would probably i it to protect his grandparents. It’s doesn’t though so why risk his health over something that may do more harm than good to him personally. Why did the JCVI say no to vaccinating teenage boys unless there was a worry?

17CherryTreeLane · 20/09/2021 17:09

My DS is 13, with a history of anaphylaxis so no, we've discussed it. He won't be getting it.

Whatever9999 · 20/09/2021 17:16

Just spoke to my (very mature) 7yo, about if they ever let him have the vaccine , would he.
He already knows Mummy and Daddy had it to protect his brother and his Nan.
And his answer..
"Yes, of course. I don't want my brother to get poorly and if an injection helps then I'll have it"

You'll be surprised how much even young children understand about what's been happening over the last 18months. And how much they want things back to how they were before March 2019.

*his brother is probably at as much risk of a common cold as covid and he has seen him hospitalised on oxygen, drips etc. He knows that it would never be his fault if his brother got ill, but he still doesn't want to him to be in hospital again and if he can help prevent it he will

itsgettingwierd · 20/09/2021 17:17

@17CherryTreeLane

My DS is 13, with a history of anaphylaxis so no, we've discussed it. He won't be getting it.
What's the history of reactions too?

My ds use to have awful allergic reactions as a kid and cried an epipen for years but never found an allergy.

He had pfiezer and was fine because it's a certain drug in it that causes the allergic reaction.

I'd be more than happy to vaccinate my child if he was that age group. (He was doubled jabbed at 16).

mRNA vaccines aren't new. They'd already been through a lot of trials for other things hence why the technology could be used quickly and efficiently for coronavirus.

I'm confident because I don't believe that worldwide there would be mass vaccination against a virus that has a high death rate if they had any real concerns about it making large numbers I'll long term and putting other pressures on the healthcare system.

hamstersarse · 20/09/2021 17:20

It's hard to understand how all this fear for children getting Covid has come from

Any time I hear of any children getting Covid I don't think "oh my god are they going to die!!". I think, "oh, they'll be off school for a bit, might miss the football match on Sunday"

I remember the rosy days when we said that if we vaccinate all the vulnerable everything will be OK given they are the ones who are actually at risk of being very ill / dying

Covid creep seems to be a thing. Nothing will ever be good enough. Once we reach one milestone, it's just a false summit and there is another mountain to climb.

I wonder if all these people who are jumping to get shots in the arms of their children, shots which do not have long-term impact data would really do it if they had not been so frightened to death over the past 18 months. Back in sunny January of 2020 would most parents really inject their child with a vaccine with no data into their children for a disease that they are at a tiny risk of being ill from? I find it hard to believe they would

Persecution · 20/09/2021 17:24

My teen dd has had dreadful issues after just one AZ vaccine

hamstersarse · 20/09/2021 17:28

Mine too @Persecution

Was prior to the 'coming clean' about myocarditis in young men.

He got myocarditis.

gibletjane · 20/09/2021 17:47

I'm really anxious about this. It doesn't stop transmission & kids generally don't get ill. One of mine had a runny nose for a day.
What's the point of taking the risk?

EasterIssland · 20/09/2021 17:49

Wouldn’t rush with my son. He’s 3yo so not his age gap. But a trial with only 2k kids I don’t think it’s enough info. Specially after seeing how on older kids their hearts have been affected.

Let’s forget all kids from rich countries and not donate the vaccines to other countries where they’re poorer and might be more needed. What could go wrong ? New variants ?? Who cares!

IncredulousOne · 20/09/2021 17:55

@takemetocedarpoint

What “move”? It’s just a trial, and the results of said trial. Any other vaccine your children have had all also have been through similar trials. Nothing’s been approved yet, either.
Yes, and back in February they had "no plans" to vaccinate under 18's...
gibletjane · 20/09/2021 17:55

@hamstersarse how soon did he get myocarditis after the jab if you don't mind me asking. My normally healthy brother had an irregular heartbeat 2 wks after his AZ vaccine & they couldn't find any cause. The vaccine I believe wasn't considered & when he was jabbed there wasn't any press about it.

hamstersarse · 20/09/2021 17:57

@gibletjane
He got it the night of having the first shot of AZ

gibletjane · 20/09/2021 18:00

I hope he's ok now? DB has had one other episode but been fine since & scan is clear.

Silverswirl · 20/09/2021 18:06

@halcyondays

I wouldn’t worry, by the time the JCVI have approved it for this age group they’ll probably all be about 40. American kids will probably be offered it soon though.
The JCVI didn’t approve the over 12’s either yet that’s going merrily ahead as we speak!
Silverswirl · 20/09/2021 18:12

Of course it’s coming for 5-11’s in the UK at some point in the not too distant future.
Then more parents will have to face the horrible decision I am facing with my DD who just turned 12.
They claim it’s a choice now, but for how long?
Soon no child will be able to travel or visit places like theatres unless jabbed.

userperuser · 20/09/2021 18:14

@Silverswirl

Of course it’s coming for 5-11’s in the UK at some point in the not too distant future. Then more parents will have to face the horrible decision I am facing with my DD who just turned 12. They claim it’s a choice now, but for how long? Soon no child will be able to travel or visit places like theatres unless jabbed.
There’s already one comment up thread about not wanted to be seated by any unvaccinated children.

It’s obvious which way it’s going.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 20/09/2021 18:19

I started a thread about this earlier, but I didn't put sceptical bunny ears around "safe", so everyone ignored it. Grin

It's good news.

HairyToity · 20/09/2021 18:27

My kids were both asymptomatic. Over my dead body will they be having a jab.

TimandGinger · 20/09/2021 18:27

Can’t believe all these people who are allowing this and emotionally blackmailing their children to have it. Utter craziness. children don’t have to ‘protect’ anyone. They’re children. Mine won’t be getting it no matter what.

ichundich · 20/09/2021 18:28

I think it's unnecessary and wouldn't want it for my kids before they're around 14. Better to share the excess (?) vaccine with poor countries rather than "wasting" it on a demographic that tends to handle a Covid infection very well in general IMO.

TheReluctantPhoenix · 20/09/2021 18:37

We vaccinate very young children against rubella. How many children die or even really get sick from rubella?

The point of vaccinating against rubella is the risk to protect against the teratogenic effects if pregnant women catch it.

If we only vaccinated to protect people against risks to themselves, we should stop including rubella in the MMR (and arguably even mumps, which is very rarely dangerous to children).

Vaccinating children against COVID is to protect against ‘mild’ illness, which can still be unpleasant, keep schooling consistent, and protect older people.

The vaccine reduces the probability of you getting sick, and thus spreading COVID.

And if there are side effects, they will be short term, not long term, so can be tested for. What possible mechanism would cause a vaccine to have a delayed onset long term effect?!

Mynameismargot · 20/09/2021 18:38

@TimandGinger

Can’t believe all these people who are allowing this and emotionally blackmailing their children to have it. Utter craziness. children don’t have to ‘protect’ anyone. They’re children. Mine won’t be getting it no matter what.
Are you talking about parents in the trial emotionally blackmailing their kids to take part? Where did you hear about this? You can't believe 'all these people allowing this' do you think drug trials should be banned? How else do you propose that research is done to find out what vaccines/drugs are safe?
PicsInRed · 20/09/2021 18:42

If the vaccine causes infertility, surely covid causes much more infertility? None of it causes any infertility.

There is as much evidence this vaccine causes infertility as that the HPV vaccine causes both infertility and flagrant promiscuity. Anyone else remember that moral and "scientific" panic from all the Careful Researchers? Hmm Aaaaaand the kids were fine.

Dettolmenace · 20/09/2021 18:52

I 100% but you will get a lot of adult now applying pressure on kids to minimise the risk against doubly vaccinated adults.

A 30 year old unvaccinated man still has less risk of serious illness or death than a doubly vaccinated older person - yet the Eye of Sauron is now starting to towards the kids. Some one is certainly wanting to get their monies worth out of covid 19

Ive had both vaccinations - had to because of my work but hell would freeze over before I gave it my kids.