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Do they think our kids are stupid?

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Dotheythinkourkidsarestupid · 20/09/2021 08:35

Just that, they have been told for months to stay safe, give up everything to not catch covid etc now we are sending them into school when their friends have covid and they have been in close contact and they are supposed to just OK that's fine. How stupid do the government think they are?

I have chronic health issues but not considered CEV so no child vaccine and she doesn't want to go in catch it and bring it home but I have just had to send her in anyway. Shes saying it's stupid and she's right but it's going to get worse in the next week or so and I'm saving keeping her off until I absolutely have to.

Why oh why didn't they vaccinate over the summer?

It's inevitable now that she will catch it and give it to me, if it does set me back she will blame herself

The whole thing is shit

And before people start saying it's the new normal, what more do you want etc I want close contacts to PCR and stay home until results come through and children have been vaccinated.
There is no hope of tracking it now

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Dotheythinkourkidsarestupid · 20/09/2021 08:40

Or I at least the option to keep her off if I feel I need to

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frozendaisy · 20/09/2021 08:46

Perhaps talk to your school about keeping her off if need be.

And talk to GP about you getting a booster jab this winter.

See what they say.

She wouldn't be to blame if she catches it and gives it to you, you can only reassure her this isn't her fault.

Sadless · 20/09/2021 10:04

Children having the jab isn't going to stop them bringing it home. I have a vulnerable husband and child. I also have two other children at schools.
The schools are back to normal now as what I am being told by my son and was told they don't have to tell parents now if there's any cases in school. Which I think is wrong especially if they are in the same classroom.
The government is expecting everyone to get it now with minority of the population vaccinated. You could speak to the school about doing home school or deregister because this isn't going away any time soon. Another local high school have brought back masks from today but I wouldn't have a clue of what the situation is in my children's schools. My youngest attends a special school and had a email to say that after school club wasn't on this week because of staff not being in ill. With what they was off most of last week and still today they could have covid and unless my son gets ill I wouldn't know about it and the teaching assistants are hands on in special schools.
I know schools need to be more normal but I think as parents we have rights to know if our kids are around other children with covid.
Its putting the vulnerable in a bad place.

Sal

itsgrand · 20/09/2021 10:07

have you had your two vaccines though? If so what is the worry? The world has to go on, we can't shut down everything again, I know you have health issues but we just can't.

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Dotheythinkourkidsarestupid · 20/09/2021 16:07

@itsgrand

have you had your two vaccines though? If so what is the worry? The world has to go on, we can't shut down everything again, I know you have health issues but we just can't.
I'm not saying shut everything down I'm saying take reasonable precautions in schools until they are vaccinated. By that I mean isolating contacts until they have a negative PCR it's one day. Also having lunch bubbles to make tracing easier. Maybe masks still. Hardly shutting everything down.

And of course if they had jabbed kids over the summer it would have helped

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thewhatsit · 20/09/2021 16:11

Obviously it’s different in your family because you are vulnerable, but I think a lot (most?) children are pretty happy to be back to normal and if so, I wouldn’t call them stupid.

shouldistop · 20/09/2021 16:14

We still have restrictions in schools in Scotland and look how well that's working out for us.

Covid is now endemic, everyone can expect to catch it at least once in their life time. Vaccination is very effective at protecting against serious illness, that's as good as it's going to get.

BogRollBOGOF · 20/09/2021 16:18

And do you propose to do this for every single illness that is potentially a hazard to your health?

I appreciate that you have specific concerns, but as a general, if we keep disrupting education and opportunities for children to 2020-2021 standards, then while we won't have a "stupid" generation, we will have an under-educated, under-experienced generation, and that is to the detriment of all in society.

ChrissyPlummer · 20/09/2021 16:22

It’s mad. I went out with my friend last Thursday. Got pinged by the app yesterday but told I didn’t have to isolate unless I had symptoms as I’m double-jabbed. They recommended I get a test.

I got a test, which thankfully was negative but it’s ridiculous that I could have been positive but symptomless and it’s OK that I go out and spread it around Confused

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2021 16:22

Isolation means disruption, major issues with education for a 3rd year for a group, that on the whole are least at risk. I’m sorry for your personal predicament but surely you can see it’s not sustainable to have kids repeatedly isolating for 10days over and over again.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2021 16:22

@ChrissyPlummer

It’s mad. I went out with my friend last Thursday. Got pinged by the app yesterday but told I didn’t have to isolate unless I had symptoms as I’m double-jabbed. They recommended I get a test.

I got a test, which thankfully was negative but it’s ridiculous that I could have been positive but symptomless and it’s OK that I go out and spread it around Confused

Then stay home!
NailsNeedDoing · 20/09/2021 16:24

The difference now is that we have a better idea of how the illness is is going to affect people and we have space in hospitals for the minority that react especially badly. It is right that children’s education shouldn’t be further damaged when they are so unlikely to be seriously ill.

Masks and lunch bubbles never really worked and were more like a lip service to show that schools were doing something, even if it was ineffective and inconvenient. Teenagers weren’t offered the vaccine over summer because we knew even less than we do now about how safe it is for them. You can’t rely on other children at school having the vaccine anyway, partly because we know it won’t stop them catching or transmitting the virus, and we know that there will be a lower uptake in that age group than there is in the adult population.

We’ve had no hope of tracking it for ages for many reasons.

This is as good as it’s going to get. If someone’s personal circumstances are such that they would be more comfortable with their child not going to school, then they have the option to homeschool just like they have always had the right to do. What you can’t expect is for schools to provide education for individual children at home when the rest of their classes are in as normal.

SweetBabyCheeses99 · 20/09/2021 16:35

The thing is, it wasn’t the Government that ever wanted schools to close or any of the interventions for them. They wanted to prioritise education. It was the Trade Unions that piled on all the pressure. Of course kids aren’t stupid, but it isn’t their fault that the adults around them have petrified them when there was no need for this in the first place. Shame on you for making your poor child feel like they are responsible for your ill health.

eeyore228 · 20/09/2021 16:41

A number of people where I am are not having their children jabbed. They do not feel it’s safe. Just the 20 parents I personally know there’s only 1 taking it up. Additionally they have to make sure it’s safe and there’s no sense in pushing something through just because it’s the holidays.

Rainbowsandstorms · 20/09/2021 16:42

@ChrissyPlummer it’s crazy isn’t it. Keep doing lateral flow tests as it’s all in the timing with pcrs and if taken too early you could still be incubating covid but not yet have enough of a viral load to pick it up on a pcr. Worth doing daily LFT to pick it up early if you have caught it.

ChrissyPlummer · 20/09/2021 16:42

Well, I did! And thankfully my results were back really quick. I had a meeting to attend today though and it’s crazy that I could have attended even if I was positive though. I think it’s irresponsible. I had already told the chair of the meeting that if I didn’t get my results back, or they were positive then I wouldn’t be attending.

Needcoffeecoffeecoffee · 20/09/2021 16:44

Do you know how much work goes into setting up a vaccination programme? For all 12-15yrs?
Using nhs staff already stretched.
And if it was over the summer what would the uptake be with people prioritising holidays etc

ChrissyPlummer · 20/09/2021 16:45

I will. The only place I was in for more than 15 minutes was on the train (2 hour journey) so could have been someone sat behind me but who I had no contact with.

halcyondays · 20/09/2021 16:51

@Needcoffeecoffeecoffee

Do you know how much work goes into setting up a vaccination programme? For all 12-15yrs? Using nhs staff already stretched. And if it was over the summer what would the uptake be with people prioritising holidays etc
Well it was pretty good in Ireland when they started their rollout over the summer. They just got it at vaccination centres after making appointments online. Can’t see how holidays makes any difference. Same with lots of countries who don’t seem to have had much difficulty in offering it to this age group.
AFuturisticalSound · 20/09/2021 17:00

@ChrissyPlummer

It’s mad. I went out with my friend last Thursday. Got pinged by the app yesterday but told I didn’t have to isolate unless I had symptoms as I’m double-jabbed. They recommended I get a test.

I got a test, which thankfully was negative but it’s ridiculous that I could have been positive but symptomless and it’s OK that I go out and spread it around Confused

In what way is it ridiculous? We could all be positive with no symptoms and carrying on with life, I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean Covid is ridiculous for being a virus that can spread asymptomatically?
Warhertisuff · 20/09/2021 17:28

@ChrissyPlummer

I will. The only place I was in for more than 15 minutes was on the train (2 hour journey) so could have been someone sat behind me but who I had no contact with.
I think we all need to get past the belief the risk of spreading Covid is something we need to avoid at all costs. Over 7 million positive cases have been recorded in the U.K., probably up to 20 million infections in total.
Watapalava · 20/09/2021 17:53

OP your child is not cev from your post

You are

You are double vax

So whats the issue? She doesn't need the vaccine to protect you as youve had it

flippertyop · 20/09/2021 18:07

My child is not going to be vaccinated because I am unsure of the risks. If you are concerned you need to sort out your own situation. A lot of kids probably won't have the vaccine and life has to go on I'm afraid.

RaoulDufysCat · 20/09/2021 18:23

My child's school is going back to masks in all communal areas and in lessons from tomorrow. I am very glad. They have 30 cases in one year alone!

MrsHamlet · 20/09/2021 18:37

It was the Trade Unions that piled on all the pressure.
Nonsense.