Infections among fully vaccinated

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In the last 4 weeks I know of eleven fully vaccinated adults in my wider social circle who have caught covid. Transmission has been either via returning to work or catching it from school aged children (the case rate in our local schools is very high but no one is talking about it. 4 cases in my daughters class of 16)
None of the adults have needed hospital but a couple have been extremely sick for 2-3 weeks and one was triaged in an ambulance.
I know that the vaccine doesn't prevent all cases but is it preventing any? All of the adults infected have it to their whole family. Or is it just making the subsequent covid infection less virulent?

Have I just been unlucky with the people I know or is this about to be a thing? I'm resigned now to probably catching it which is really concerning as I was classified as CEV.

Unfortunately it’s a coronavirus. They mutate all the time and it’s going to keep mutating. Eventually the vaccine won’t work at all unless they change the vaccine.

There will be a need to think about the circulating variants. The vaccine is mainly a platform and can be tweaked. The flu vaccine is not the same every year and efficacy of that really depends on educated guesswork of circulating strains and changes each year. My kids are still in throes of covid and their symptoms are classic - ie fever, cough and taste changes. Of course there can be other symptoms but seems everyone’s symptoms cannot be predicted. DH and I are still doing daily LFTs since our negative PCRs. Two weeks in, double vaxxed but lots of anxiety if the vaccines are protecting us or not. Second vaccines were in may of this year!

@MercyBooth

Sorry to hear that *@HesterShaw1* Ive agreed with a lot of your posts on here and have always found them quite measured Get well soon

Thank you @MercyBooth, I appreciate it :)

A prime opportunity to engage more people in adopting a healthy lifestyle has been missed

Yes its well known that shutting all the gyms and slimming classes and all the close contact services like bra fittings which women need when gaining or losing weight plus turning us into a nation of scruffs every few months (celebs let off of course) are great incentives to lose weight.

'We know age is a big risk factor and it is often talked about. Obesity, not so much.'

Oh it'll be 'fat shaming' to mention that.

Well dont you worry @JaniieJones Ive lost 7 pounds in the last month thanks to a healthy eating plan. Because its been weeks my stomach has gotten used to smaller portion sizes. So if they dare to pull Lockdown 4............hunger strike here i come.

Based on a very unscientific study of 3 people, the vaccine seems to give us minimal symptoms and no lasting effects when exposed to Covid. It might reduce the viral load, but it didn't appear to in our case.

DH, DD(14) and I caught it on holiday (almost certainly when queuing to be tested at the airport on arrival). Adults had 2 AZ jabs by mid May.

DH caught it first (weakened immune system), then unvaccinated teen then me about 10 days later. We sneezed copiously, DH felt rough for a day, but well enough to work 8 hours/day (sneezing had calmed down a bit after a couple of days), DD for 2 or 3 and I honestly thought my illness was more like a cold. Daughter can't really smell much 8 weeks on but only thought to mention it today.

I think Delta is going to be difficult to avoid; it's hurtling round DD's school (which had previously just had a few cases since first lockdown).

And now they are talking about jabbing 5-11 year olds!

@HesterShaw1 ive been expecting it.

'Yes its well known that shutting all the gyms and slimming classes and all the close contact services like bra fittings which women need when gaining or losing weight plus turning us into a nation of scruffs every few months (celebs let off of course) are great incentives to lose weight.'

Oh please. I've managed perfectly well to buy my own bras over the years without a fitting and also, yes gyms did indeed close as there was a highly infectious disease killing thousands which necessitated such restrictions. Nothing to stop anyone jogging, walking, cycling or even doing Davina workouts at home. Well nothing except excuses of course.

Well done on your weight loss though

[quote JaniieJones]'Yes its well known that shutting all the gyms and slimming classes and all the close contact services like bra fittings which women need when gaining or losing weight plus turning us into a nation of scruffs every few months (celebs let off of course) are great incentives to lose weight.'

Oh please. I've managed perfectly well to buy my own bras over the years without a fitting and also, yes gyms did indeed close as there was a highly infectious disease killing thousands which necessitated such restrictions. Nothing to stop anyone jogging, walking, cycling or even doing Davina workouts at home. Well nothing except excuses of course.

Well done on your weight loss though

@JaniieJones I lost ten stone in the past. i know about healthy eating and how to lose weight. I suspect if i had turned to drink or drugs instead of food the reaction would be very different. Ive never even been drunk. Im child free by choice.

I resent having to look and feel like a scruffbag to save the hallowed NHS. You need a proper bra fitting when losing and gaining weight. I lost ten stone in 2002/03 and went from a 46G to 34F.

Im currently a 38HH I couldnt fit into my bras so ive been braless since last Christmas. I now have a new one from Bravissimo

So ive probably done enough damage to save the fucking NHS without adding jumping up and down into the equation.

YY YY @HesterShaw1 need a like button for your post.

'On the contrary, don't you remember the angry irrational abuse people who dared to jog or cycle or walk back in the spring of 2020 were subjected to? '

Bollocks. Exercise was always allowed just maybe not in groups with the next door neighbour, nan and a picnic blanket.

'And if you apply even the slightest amount of imagination or empathy, it's not hard to consider why going for a solitary jog or a cycle might not work for many people who want to get fit, particularly those who are overweight, and need the encouragement and motivation from others'

Yep, as I said nothing to stop people except excuses.

@JaniieJones

'On the contrary, don't you remember the angry irrational abuse people who dared to jog or cycle or walk back in the spring of 2020 were subjected to? '

Bollocks. Exercise was always allowed just maybe not in groups with the next door neighbour, nan and a picnic blanket.

It might have been always allowed. But you know as well as I do the amount of judging and hysteria that went on when people dared to go within x amount of metres of someone irrational. People jumping into hedges and into the road to avoid a jogger, or getting upset by other people in the park. Stay the fuck at home - act like you have the virus - and so on and so on and so on. Derbyshire police flying drones to shame people out for a walk. South Yorkshire police berating children for playing in their front garden because people were dying.

Other people so infected by fear they refused to leave their houses.

This happened and despite the attempted rewriting of history, people won't forget it.

'But you know as well as I do the amount of judging and hysteria that went on when people dared to go within x amount of metres of someone irrational.'

I think its you who is conveniently rewriting history. There wasn't any criticism of people jogging or cycling 🙄. There was of course criticism of many thick people just carrying as normal because it was a 'dictatorship' 🥱.

the case rate in our local schools is very high but no one is talking about it

Really? I can’t move for people banging on about it.

@MyCatDribbles

Well I think 9 out of 10 people are vaccinated now so most of the people getting it will most likely be fully vaccinated. The difference is fewer people are dying from it. I do think that school children are a massive vector as they can’t be expected to be careful

Plus school children aren't vaccinated and that's still a key spreader, rather than just vaccinated passing it onto vaccinated.

Being vaccinated doesn't seem to make any difference regarding stopping you catching it though.

YY @HesterShaw1 and the checking of shopping baskets for non essentials. A police chief actually said this.

@JaniieJones

'On the contrary, don't you remember the angry irrational abuse people who dared to jog or cycle or walk back in the spring of 2020 were subjected to? '

Bollocks. Exercise was always allowed just maybe not in groups with the next door neighbour, nan and a picnic blanket.

Actually, I remember people being publicly vilified for going for a walk on the moors (miles from anyone) because they were more than 5km from home.

I also remember people trying to do others in for taking more than 1 hour of exercise a day. (It was a guideline, not an upper limit)

@JaniieJones

'But you know as well as I do the amount of judging and hysteria that went on when people dared to go within x amount of metres of someone irrational.'

I think its you who is conveniently rewriting history. There wasn't any criticism of people jogging or cycling 🙄. There was of course criticism of many thick people just carrying as normal because it was a 'dictatorship' 🥱.

I must have imagined the threads moaning about runners ‘huffing and puffing’ over people then. And people being told to just exercise at home, and that we should have a ‘proper lockdown’ like Spain where you were only allowed out for your dogs to go to the toilet. And people being given fines for exercising more than 5km from home. And people being told they shouldn’t exercise out of the house in case they had an accident and needed medical treatment. Except I know I didn’t 🤷🏻‍♀️.

And the police officers turning up and surrounding two women out for a walk with coffee in Derbyshire. And issuing them with fines.

Must have imagined that too.

twitter.com/netpol/status/1347541602533826570?lang=en

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-52055201

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-garden-lockdown-rules-south-yorkshire-police-rotherham-a9459146.html