Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

[Maskedtonigh]

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

@hamstersarse

the same goes for obese people who don’t look particularly fit and healthy to begin with, do they have any idea of the risk they are taking?

I imagine obese people are very used to suppressing their health risks. Obesity now kills 2.8million people a year worldwide, more than Covid has in 18 months.

Would seem odd to me if obese people wore masks - they clearly don't care about their health

Just being pedantic, but Covid has (according to Worldometers) killed nearly 4.7 million.

"21:30gardeninggirl68

@Thewiseoneincognito what an odd assumption. weird.."

This poster is obtuse when replying to something they don't agree with. Just ignore.

@Peteycat

"21:30gardeninggirl68

@Thewiseoneincognito what an odd assumption. weird.."

This poster is obtuse when replying to something they don't agree with. Just ignore.

That’s a bit rich coming from you Pete 😂

@hamstersarse

the same goes for obese people who don’t look particularly fit and healthy to begin with, do they have any idea of the risk they are taking?

I imagine obese people are very used to suppressing their health risks. Obesity now kills 2.8million people a year worldwide, more than Covid has in 18 months.

Would seem odd to me if obese people wore masks - they clearly don't care about their health

COVID has killed far more than that estimate, is infectious so impacts on others and also risks mutating into an immune escape strain. It kills over days/weeks, not decades, and has caused swathes of people to need hospital care at once.

Yes we have an epidemic of obesity which is also considered a public health crisis, but isn't comparable by a long shot.

Incidentally, the kind of masks the general public wear reduce spread to others, not protect the wearer, so your point is a tad moot.

"COVID has killed far more than that estimate, is infectious so impacts on others and also risks mutating into an immune escape strain. It kills over days/weeks, not decades, and has caused swathes of people to need hospital care at once."

Please stop with the mutation talk again. As I have said to you on numerous threads, you are guessing. Anything you link to me, I will ignore as you have a habit of spamming threads also. All the information you post regarding mutations are always ambiguous and hypothetical.

"22:17Thewiseoneincognito

Peteycat

"21:30gardeninggirl68

@Thewiseoneincognito what an odd assumption. weird.."

This poster is obtuse when replying to something they don't agree with. Just ignore.

That’s a bit rich coming from you Pete "

😘

Unless people wear proper masks such as N95, they’re pretty much pointless.

I have loved not having to wear one and it has encouraged me and my friends to go to shops. Before, we just didn’t want to if it meant wearing a mask.

@Peteycat

"COVID has killed far more than that estimate, is infectious so impacts on others and also risks mutating into an immune escape strain. It kills over days/weeks, not decades, and has caused swathes of people to need hospital care at once."

Please stop with the mutation talk again. As I have said to you on numerous threads, you are guessing. Anything you link to me, I will ignore as you have a habit of spamming threads also. All the information you post regarding mutations are always ambiguous and hypothetical.

eh? I wasn't replying to you, this was clearly a reply to another poster who compared COVID to obesity. I even quoted the original post so not sure how you can get confused by this.

If you're so intent on ignoring me then don't reply, particularly if the post wasn't even involving you

@Peteycat

"COVID has killed far more than that estimate, is infectious so impacts on others and also risks mutating into an immune escape strain. It kills over days/weeks, not decades, and has caused swathes of people to need hospital care at once."

Please stop with the mutation talk again. As I have said to you on numerous threads, you are guessing. Anything you link to me, I will ignore as you have a habit of spamming threads also. All the information you post regarding mutations are always ambiguous and hypothetical.

Who on earth does this person think they are?!

People are allowed their own opinion, you telling people to "stop it" is just down right rude.

Who made you the queen of Mumsnet?

This is an open forum snd people have a right to differing opinions, on all sorts of things, including mutations!

"eh? I wasn't replying to you, this was clearly a reply to another poster who compared COVID to obesity. I even quoted the original post so not sure how you can get confused by this."

I'm not confused.

@marieantoinehairnet

You are rude on many threads.

Can you stop trolling people please

@Peteycat

"COVID has killed far more than that estimate, is infectious so impacts on others and also risks mutating into an immune escape strain. It kills over days/weeks, not decades, and has caused swathes of people to need hospital care at once."

Please stop with the mutation talk again. As I have said to you on numerous threads, you are guessing. Anything you link to me, I will ignore as you have a habit of spamming threads also. All the information you post regarding mutations are always ambiguous and hypothetical.

But saying that the damn' thing mutates isn't a guess, or hypothetical; it's a simple fact. That's why there are variants, and the one we are worrying about at the moment is Delta: there are also Alpha, Beta and Gamma, Eta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda and Mu, but Delta seems to be the most transmissible one at the moment.

Oh, and I think they have stopped worrying so much about Theta and Zeta and Epsilon.

It really ought to be a Tom Lehrer song.

I have come to the strange personal conclusion that masks had nothing to do with stopping the spread. Because a bit of cloth doesn't.

They were put in place to give the public a very clear and visual day to day reminder that a pandemic was going on. That they had to stay apart from others, keep away and keep your distance. It was more of a psychological thing than a physical thing.

But that's just my musings I have no evidence to base this on whatsoever.

"22:38Thewiseoneincognito

I’m starting to think Pete and Watapalava are the same person."

Nope! I don't name change. If I have said it, I most likely mean it.

There’s something ‘off’ about both of them that’s for sure.

Questioning comments is not trolling!

"22:42Thewiseoneincognito

There’s something ‘off’ about both of them that’s for sure."

😂

@ShinyThingsDistractMe

I have come to the strange personal conclusion that masks had nothing to do with stopping the spread. Because a bit of cloth doesn't.

They were put in place to give the public a very clear and visual day to day reminder that a pandemic was going on. That they had to stay apart from others, keep away and keep your distance. It was more of a psychological thing than a physical thing.

But that's just my musings I have no evidence to base this on whatsoever.

There's actually decent evidence that they work in certain settings

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e.g., large RCT which tracked more than 340,000 adults across 600 villages in rural Bangladesh, is by far the largest randomized study on the effectiveness of masks at limiting the spread of coronavirus infections.

Its authors say this provides conclusive, real-world evidence for what laboratory work and other research already strongly suggest: mask-wearing can have a significant impact on limiting the spread of symptomatic covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.

“I think this should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks can be effective in combating covid at the population level,” Jason Abaluck, an economist at Yale who helped lead the study, said in an interview, calling it “a nail in the coffin” of the arguments against masks.

www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/01/masks-study-covid-bangladesh/

I’m in Scotland so have never stopped, but I do think they act as more of a “visual cue” to keep your distance than effective protection unless they are medical grade. I teach, and the number of students who clearly never wash them is massive. Some of them make me feel queasy!

I'm not saying your wrong, but is that the only measure they had, the mask or were they staying apart/distancing also? Problem is unless you remove all other factors and just do masks you won't know what else plays a part in minimizing spread.

And I don't think it's humane to lock one group in a large room wearing just masks for a week and introduce a positive person and then lock another group with masks and distancing in a room with a positive person and see the results.

I wear one, I have no issue wearing one, I'm in Wales where they are still mandatory and wear them daily as part of my job in the community. So I'm not against them, I just think does a piece of cotton such as a the fashion masks really work?

Yes, I can't wait to wear my lanyard and card again that signals me out to people that I am exempt, but they still give me shit anyway.
Bring it on.