Really confused about isolating

[Servalan]

My 15 year old DD found out this morning that a friend of hers has just tested positive for CV19

She spent a whole day with this friend yesterday - I gather they hugged a couple of times.

I was assuming this would mean she'll need to isolate for 10 days - but I'm getting really confused looking at the government guidelines which seem to say that the only people needing to isolate are folk who are pinged by the NHS app - which she doesn't have - and if she was at school she wouldn't be needing to isolate if a close contact.

Does she carry on as normal and not isolate? This doesn't seem right!

Thanks for any insight

If in England she doesn’t have to isolate. Recommend PCR test. Assume she will also be doing LFT for return to school

Personally I would be limiting social contact as much as possible but she doesn’t have to

Are you British?

Your daughter doesn’t need to isolate. She needs to book a PCR test.

I’d suggest she also does daily lateral flow tests.

She would be contact traced first. If found to be a close contact she doesn't need to isolate but should take a PCR (although in Scotland you are supposed to isolate until you get the result of the PCR)

I wasn't sure if she could be contact traced if she doesn't have the NHS app? I'll get a PCR booked for her then and get her to do a lateral flow every day for the next 10 days - she's just done a negative one now.

I'm assuming that as I've not recently spent time with her friend that I'm only to isolate if my daughter tests positive? (am double jabbed)

Thanks for clarifying - doesn't take much to confuse me!!

Leave it at least another day before doing the PCR - it's too early for it to pick up anything.

The app has nothing to do with Test and Trace, they are separate entities. T&T should contact the positive person and ask for close contacts. They will work out if your dd is a contact and advise if she needs to do anything

You wouldn't need to isolate if your dd does get it as you are double jabbed. You should get a PCR if she does get it though

You don't have to isolate even if DD tears positive if you're double jabbed.

I would leave the PCR for a day or 2, and both do LFT daily, you don't have to isolate if you're under 18 or double vaccinated unless you actually test positive, even if you have a close contact, so you can both carry on as normal for the moment if you want to.
We had this recently, I was positive but as DD is under 18 she didn't have to isolate, she tested negative on PCR 2 days after I tested positive, but then tested positive on LFT and got symptoms 5 days after I tested positive.

No need to isolate. Recommended that she gets a pcr but no need to isolate whilst awaiting the result unless she starts having symptoms. If she is symptom free then if she does isolate then school could put it down as unauthorised absence.

As previous posters have advised. It seems very random as to who gets it. We have recently holidayed in Scotland visiting family. Long car journeys with no masks. Close time with relatives, meals together. Saying together watching films on sofa etc. One of my DD s tested positive and had just finished isolating. Rest of us had couple of PCR's and multiple lateral flows and no one else infected. Definitely not a given that your DD will get it.

@Servalan

I wasn't sure if she could be contact traced if she doesn't have the NHS app? I'll get a PCR booked for her then and get her to do a lateral flow every day for the next 10 days - she's just done a negative one now.

I'm assuming that as I've not recently spent time with her friend that I'm only to isolate if my daughter tests positive? (am double jabbed)

Thanks for clarifying - doesn't take much to confuse me!!

Yoiu should really go on the government website and get the actual proper guidace rather than assuming. You are not required to isolate if your daughter is positive and you are double jabbed. The only time a double jabbed person or a child under 18 has to isolate is if they are positive theselves. Your daughter may not even be considered a close contact and may not be contacted

You should book a test and isolate until results , that would be the right thing to do .
I know someone who’s been in contact with a positive case so isolated and booked a test which was also positive. So for me even if you don’t need to isolate that is what I would do if been in contact with someone.

I did go on the government website but wasn't sure whether I'd understood it correctly - probably because it doesn't feel right that DD doesn't need to isolate at all.

Assuming you're in England OP I don't blame you for being confused. When I tested positive (this was after 16 August) T&T told DH to isolate and get a PCR despite him being double vaccinated. He was then told off by the PCR site testing staff for going. Then when T&T rang me, they gave me a different (by 5 days!) isolation end date to the date in the email notification 🤷🏻‍♀️

Oh blimey - this is all so confusing!

I had a positive pcr on Tuesday . Government recommend pcr for household members ( all of which came back negative) so they are all out at work in customer facing roles.

It's complete madness

Dh work got really snotty with him wanting to leave to get a pcr (and stay away until result) when my positive came in as it's only recommended by the nhs site and not compulsory

As an aside, I wouldn't trust lft results as a green light for being near vulnerable people. I've been doing daily lft since positive result and all have come back negative . 2 types - the throat and single nostril and the double nostril . I'm definitely them properly as actually worked as a lft tester in the spring for local government

I don't think that even counts as a close contact to recommend a PCR (although personally I'd recommend one - talking official guidelines here) apparently there needs to be a sleepover or kissing involved according to a friends conversation with test and trace yesterday if under 18. 10 days isolation definitely no longer on the cards

If your double jabbed you don't need to self isolate at all unless you tests positive! Hope this helps @Servalan you do have to do tests on day 2 and day 8 though

@Mammaaof

If your double jabbed you don't need to self isolate at all unless you tests positive! Hope this helps *@Servalan* you do have to do tests on day 2 and day 8 though

Is that not the rules for testing after a holiday abroad?

I had a positive pcr on Tuesday . Government recommend pcr for household members ( all of which came back negative) so they are all out at work in customer facing roles.

You're right. Colleagues daughter tested positive last weekend. Colleague had to stay home with her so has not been in work with the vulnerable dc she works with this week as she'd have been expected to if daughter was just a year or 2 older - thank goodness as she tested positive last night along with her husband (who has been in work, in a large busy office. His colleagues are not counted as close contacts and are not expected to test.)

Madness indeed

T&T is a farce. DD tested positive shortly after returning from a festival (asymptomatic, +ve routine lft). We weren't asked about close contacts (other than immediate family) or if we'd gone with friends. We'd already advised the friends we were with (15 of them) and the friend shed shared a tent with. But massive opportunity missed by T&T.

Under 18s don't need to self isolate at all unless they're pcr positive. They're not even required to get a pcr or do lateral flows. www.gov.uk/government/news/self-isolation-removed-for-double-jabbed-close-contacts-from-16-august

Bonkers, but there it is.

It does advise PCR tests but doesn't say you have to take one:

As of Monday, double-jabbed individuals and under 18s who are identified as close contacts by NHS Test and Trace will be advised to take aPCRtest as soon as possible to check if they have the virus and for variants of concern. People can order aPCRhome test online or by calling 119, or going to a test site.

As double-jabbed people identified as close contacts are still at risk of being infected, people are advised to consider other precautions such as wearing a face covering in enclosed spaces, and limit contact with other people, especially with anyone who is clinically extremely vulnerable. They will not be required to self-isolate while they wait for the results of thePCRtest.

Won't she have to do 2 LFT when she returns to school 3 days apart? Schools here are having each year group in to do the test & then texting if test is positive to stay at home.

Yes - she needs to do the LF tests for school - she did one yesterday which was negative. She's done another at home this morning, also negative, as have I - I'm going to stock up on tests so she can do them each day for the time being.