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Outbreak at work. Could’ve been avoided with isolation!!!

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Dandy008 · 27/08/2021 07:42

Work colleague came in to work last week whilst her husband was at home, positive with Covid.

She was doing daily LFT’s and had been for a PCr test at the beginning of her husbands isolation.

Monday she was in work, Tuesday morning she got a positive LFT.

Yesterday 4 other colleagues have also had positive LFT’s.

Surely it’s got to have been spread by the lady who’s husband had Covid? Perhaps her LFT’s were just late in showing her positive?

I just cannot understand the logic behind not having to isolate when someone in your household is positive.

Thankfully I’m not affected by this as it’s in a different office to me!

OP posts:
Howshouldibehave · 27/08/2021 08:15

@Savoretti

Well if it’s someone in their household then they should be isolating with them. People are not reading the rules properly
No, that is wrong.

If someone in my house tests positive, I will still be expected to teach every child in the school every week as from next week.

Wtfdoipick · 27/08/2021 08:18

That clearly states no need to isolate if fully vaccinated

Outbreak at work. Could’ve been avoided with isolation!!!
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Dandy008 · 27/08/2021 08:19

@Theneverendingcleaningcycle

So she went to work while waiting for the PCR results? I thought you had to have a negative PCR before you stopped isolating? It is crazy rules though. Family should deff have to isolate.
@Theneverendingcleaningcycle

No. She had a negative PcR at the start of her husbands isolation and has been coming to work on daily negative LFT’s. She got a positive LFT Tuesday.

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illuyankas · 27/08/2021 08:19

Wonder what happens at school.

Lelivre · 27/08/2021 08:20

OP, How are they feeling

CyclingIsNotOuting · 27/08/2021 08:20

My impression is that they want it to spread now though. Partly before the usual winter numbers hit the nhs and partly because unvaccinated people dying encourages those who are not vaccinated to get vaccinated.
They need essential workers to go in despite an outbreak in their workplace. They promised an element of normality for those double jabbed and this is the way they are providing it.

I’m not saying I agree with this position but I do agree that isolations and lockdowns are not sustainable or enforceable long term.

MadisonAvenue · 27/08/2021 08:21

@Savoretti

Well if it’s someone in their household then they should be isolating with them. People are not reading the rules properly
@Savoretti It’s you who isn’t reading this correctly.
glitterelf · 27/08/2021 08:23

The problem is they haven't made the rules crystal clear and are wide open to interpretation instead of writing the new rules out they've just updated them leaving them in a jumbled mess. Most people will use their common sense and isolate if a member of their household is positive but others may not be able to do it due to finances.
A friends son recently tested positive just before the new rules came into place, the rest of the household went for PCR tests all negative but two days later her other son tested positive on LFT so even with a negative PCR releasing them from isolation she used common sense and remained in isolation therefore stopping the spread.
The next few weeks/ months are going to be awfully bumpy.

ColettesEarrings · 27/08/2021 08:27

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#samehousehold

Guidance dated Aug 13th says you're wrong, @Savoretti

"If you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19
Stay at home and self-isolate. Do not go to work, school, or public areas and do not use public transport or taxis. From 16 August, if you are fully vaccinated or aged under 18 years and 6 months, you will not be required to self-isolate if you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19. See the section below for more information. If you have only received one dose of COVID-19 vaccine, you will still be required to self-isolate."

And

"Household contacts who are not required to self-isolate from 16 August
From 16 August, you will not be required to self-isolate if you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19 and any of the following apply:

you are fully vaccinated
you are below the age of 18 years 6 months
you have taken part in or are currently part of an approved COVID-19 vaccine trial
you are not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons"

ColettesEarrings · 27/08/2021 08:28

The legislation and guidance absolutely are crystal clear @glitterelf !

Shelby10 · 27/08/2021 08:28

I think the government want it to spread now. It won’t go away and they want us to just live with it. While deaths are low and hospitalisations are manageable they are probably happy to get as back to normal as possible. As a family we’ve had covid. I still feel tired 8 weeks on. And double jabbed before I got it. Luckily not ill enough to seek
medical attention.

teraculum29 · 27/08/2021 08:32

when my DD was positive, a month ago, we were told to isolate, because we are living with positive person, but grandparent who were in contact with her were offered daily Later Flow test and to carry on normally.

Seagullsstopit · 27/08/2021 08:33

I think the fully vaccinated aren't spreading it easily.
The person I caught it from is my new-ish boyfriend, so lots of close contact.
The people I sit closest to (less than 1.5m) at work are both clear, my entire household had negative pcr tests.
I think kids will still spread it easily, but I honestly believe the jab reduces transmission based on my anecdotal

Popplebop · 27/08/2021 08:34

We’ve just been through this. I tested positive two days after the rules changed. DH and teenagers were not required to isolate as Dh double vaccinated and the teenagers are under 18.

They were ‘recommended’ to go for a PCR - which they did twice over the 10 days. They also did LFTs most days. However we were all at home and it was easy to avoid people. It would be a very different situation next week when they are back to school. Interestingly none of them tested positive and are all well. It was only me.

PeonyTime · 27/08/2021 08:34

@Savoretti can you link to that guidance, please? It's not how I've read it.

teraculum29 · 27/08/2021 08:35

Cancel that, that was a month ago, legislation changed.

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Dandy008 · 27/08/2021 08:37

@Seagullsstopit

I think the fully vaccinated aren't spreading it easily. The person I caught it from is my new-ish boyfriend, so lots of close contact. The people I sit closest to (less than 1.5m) at work are both clear, my entire household had negative pcr tests. I think kids will still spread it easily, but I honestly believe the jab reduces transmission based on my anecdotal
@Seagullsstopit

My colleagues husband is fully vaccinated, my colleague is fully vaccinated. They have spread to other people.

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Carycy · 27/08/2021 08:37

Do you no if it had been isolate if someone in household had it and not all this bubble nonsense then Maybe people would have been more willing to do it. But my kids have been in and out of nursery and school all year. If someone has covid now am sending them in. They have missed too much.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 27/08/2021 08:38

A PCR test only shows a result for that moment in time so means nothing as you could pick up the virus minutes/days after the test from the person in the household with it.
If the vaccine stopped transmission or people getting it I could understand the rules but it doesn’t so makes no sense.

Howshouldibehave · 27/08/2021 08:38

If someone has covid now am sending them in

Lovely Hmm

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 27/08/2021 08:39

@Carycy

Do you no if it had been isolate if someone in household had it and not all this bubble nonsense then Maybe people would have been more willing to do it. But my kids have been in and out of nursery and school all year. If someone has covid now am sending them in. They have missed too much.
Never mind any CEV child that may catch it Hmm
twinkletoesimnot · 27/08/2021 08:40

@Carycy

Do you no if it had been isolate if someone in household had it and not all this bubble nonsense then Maybe people would have been more willing to do it. But my kids have been in and out of nursery and school all year. If someone has covid now am sending them in. They have missed too much.
And then lots of other people will miss more again. FFS
ColettesEarrings · 27/08/2021 08:42

Amendments actual legislation here.
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/851/regulation/2/made

Says that contacts who meet the following do not have to isolate. Neither the original legislation nor the amendments distinguish between household or other contacts.

"(e)after paragraph (5), insert—
“(6) This paragraph applies if—

(a)the person (“NP”) has completed a course of doses of an authorised vaccine, and
(i)that course of doses was administered to NP in the United Kingdom, and
(ii)the day on which NP had the close contact which resulted in the notification described in paragraph (1) is more than 14 days after the day on which NP completed that course of doses"

glitterelf · 27/08/2021 08:46

@ColettesEarrings if that's the case then how come even now 17 months later people still don't know that they should have a PCR not a LFT if showing symptoms.
Have you also read the school guidance ?
There's so much waffle that it's easy to understand why some people get confused or do not understand.
I do understand the guidance however I'm also able to apply common sense so if someone in my household tested positive we would isolate.