Younger age bracket in hospital

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It seems the 18-34 age bracket are seeing higher levels of hospitalisation.

Does anyone know of anyone in this bracket that had to go to hospital? Were they vaccinated? Did they have anything underlying? What was their experience?

Do we really have young healthy people in ICU on ventilators and what are the survival rates when it reaches this point?

@blue12345 yes northwest

There are only 5 adult ECMO units in the UK, so if you work in/near ole, you’re - sadly - likely to see a higher proportion because people get referred to those limited units. It doesn’t mean ICUs are flooded with young people needing it.

@Mickarooni yes I know I work in an ecmo unit that's why I'll be seeing the sickest of the sick. But we also get updates daily on how many patients we have in the trust in icu and their ages. So we do have a lot of unvaccinated pregnant women in our trust icus big trust so multiple hospitals. We are very busy at the moment and the majority or our patients are under 40 I can't speak for the other hospitals but our ecmo unit and icu only has unvaccinated patients in it. It's devastating

[quote Bakewellisntjustacake]@Mickarooni yes I know I work in an ecmo unit that's why I'll be seeing the sickest of the sick. But we also get updates daily on how many patients we have in the trust in icu and their ages. So we do have a lot of unvaccinated pregnant women in our trust icus big trust so multiple hospitals. We are very busy at the moment and the majority or our patients are under 40 I can't speak for the other hospitals but our ecmo unit and icu only has unvaccinated patients in it. It's devastating [/quote]
Sad and so unnecessary too

I really don't like the way that some (always the same) posters on here low key try to be dismissive about the importance of getting the vaccine. Or the risks to younger people or indeed anyone.

Most people worry about complications from measles which are rare. Why would you be trying to downplay risks of Covid to younger people / anyone when it's preventable and when nobody knows who is most at risk?

My 18 year old has only just become eligible for a second vaccine so I'd expect her age group to be more represented in hospitalization stats. Don't forget that the businesses that have reopened last like night clubs and travel are very appealing to that age group.

I know 18 year olds who have tested positive through my ex but none in hospital

I think that it's perhaps more common to catch Covid in hospitals than in previous waves or have I got that wrong ?

Oh interesting point about measles. I had not thought of it like that.

The risks for measles are quite documented and fairly high for complications in young children so it’s an easier one to weigh up. It’s all new with covid especially delta and youths and all we have this anecdata which is quite alarming for parents. Very difficult to make an informed judgement.

My daughter is 17 and she's having her Pfizer tomorrow - she wants to have it.

I can see why people worry because the illness itself is new. But by my reasoning it was safer for me to have the vaccine than not have it. I really suffer with mental health and also have higher risk for diabetes as had GD.

You only have 2 choices. Any vaccine can and does cause damage.

Why would you be trying to downplay risks of Covid to younger people / anyone when it's preventable and when nobody knows who is most at risk?

We do know the people most at risk. The JCVI prioritised the groups most at risk for vaccination. I don’t think that the studies are trying to ‘downplay the risks’ of the virus for young people. They just show that they are lower risks. Surely that’s a good thing?

@bumbleymummy

Why would you be trying to downplay risks of Covid to younger people / anyone when it's preventable and when nobody knows who is most at risk?

We do know the people most at risk. The JCVI prioritised the groups most at risk for vaccination. I don’t think that the studies are trying to ‘downplay the risks’ of the virus for young people. They just show that they are lower risks. Surely that’s a good thing?

No. That's not what I mean. I mean that the risk to anyone is not uniform in any group.

So, you might be in a low risk category but you still could die. That's the problem - people assuming they won't be affected, not taking the vaccine and ending up in ICU.

Deaths stats aren't really fitting with all these stories of icu being full of young people. Treatments must have really improved! Overwhelming majority of deaths are in the over 80s, as they always have been. Young healthy people dying of covid is extremely rare.

@Toty

Deaths stats aren't really fitting with all these stories of icu being full of young people. Treatments must have really improved! Overwhelming majority of deaths are in the over 80s, as they always have been. Young healthy people dying of covid is extremely rare.

I keep hearing of younger people in ICU where I live now. From people I personally know.

At the beginning of the pandemic I was skeptical.

Not any more, I've seen too much evidence that it's a problem for many people of all ages.

@bumbleymummy

Why would you be trying to downplay risks of Covid to younger people / anyone when it's preventable and when nobody knows who is most at risk?

We do know the people most at risk. The JCVI prioritised the groups most at risk for vaccination. I don’t think that the studies are trying to ‘downplay the risks’ of the virus for young people. They just show that they are lower risks. Surely that’s a good thing?

When those priority groups were put in place we didn't have the delta varient.

So, you might be in a low risk category but you still could die.

This is the same for pretty much any virus though. There are no guarantees.

@ilovesooty if you look at the ons site you can see that hospitalisation rates are still highest in the older groups.

This is the same for pretty much any virus though. There are no guarantees.

Yep, which is why people should have the vaccine unless they've a good reason not to.

I don’t think anyone should do anything tbh. If they feel that being in a low risk category is a reason not to have it, that’s their decision. Most healthy people don’t take the flu vaccine every year even though some otherwise healthy people may end up in hospital/die.

@bumbleymummy

I don’t think anyone should do anything tbh. If they feel that being in a low risk category is a reason not to have it, that’s their decision. Most healthy people don’t take the flu vaccine every year even though some otherwise healthy people may end up in hospital/die.

Do you feel the same way about MMR?

Flu isn't the same thing as covid. Though I often see it compared that way by anti-vaxxers.

Nobody should be forced to have any vaccine. And some people can't.

But if you don't have it, you have to accept that you aren't contributing to herd immunity. And if everyone had that attitude we'd still be in quarantines with more people hospitalised.

I didn’t say it was ‘the same thing as COVID’. It still hospitalises/kills some healthy people every year though and we don’t say that everyone should get the vaccine.

I don’t think any vaccines should be mandatory.

But if you don't have it, you have to accept that you aren't contributing to herd immunity.

Infection also confers immunity.

@bumbleymummy

I didn’t say it was ‘the same thing as COVID’. It still hospitalises/kills some healthy people every year though and we don’t say that everyone should get the vaccine.

I don’t think any vaccines should be mandatory.

So what is your point? Because I don't understand how it's comparable with seasonal flu. Seasonal flu doesn't lead to quarantines and school closures.

Also anecdata, but everyone else’s is. My brother is an ICU doctor. The overwhelming majority of his patients are older unvaccinated people or vaccinated with health conditions that mean they’ve sadly been able to develop an immune response. Very few young patients, vaccinated or unvaccinated.

*unable to develop, aahhh