Younger age bracket in hospital

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It seems the 18-34 age bracket are seeing higher levels of hospitalisation.

Does anyone know of anyone in this bracket that had to go to hospital? Were they vaccinated? Did they have anything underlying? What was their experience?

Do we really have young healthy people in ICU on ventilators and what are the survival rates when it reaches this point?

www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/health/covid-young-adults-sicker.html

and so on.

My friend who is 30 and single jabbed has just come out of hospital after being really unwell. I'm 30 and had my second last week so they're just about getting up to date with our age group being doubled. I think it's good news as it shows that the people in hospital on the whole aren't double jabbed!

@LindaEllen

My friend who is 30 and single jabbed has just come out of hospital after being really unwell. I'm 30 and had my second last week so they're just about getting up to date with our age group being doubled. I think it's good news as it shows that the people in hospital on the whole aren't double jabbed!

I do agree with you. However if uptake is slower or there is a sense that people in this age bracket do not need their jab, they really do and this message has to get through.

Also what about under 16's with no option of vaccination. No need to isolate in school. Are they sitting ducks?

I'm 30 and currently have Covid, I have had 1 jab. I'm fine, just a bit tired. I don't know anyone of any age who has been hospitalised.

Yes,
Yes not fully.
No. But they do now.
Frightening at one point. Excellent care.

The thought we are left with is that the virus can be unpredictable regardless of age.

This on my mind a lot and I am thinking that in the previous waves healthcare settings (care homes and hospitals) were hit hard which added to the impression that older ones became ill. They of course are but younger groups were not as exposed as now. The virus is more dispersed across the ages than previously. The previous waves were controlled by lockdowns and restrictions so this makes comparison difficult too.

This will be the first natural wave and we will see how it effects all age groups.

Personally I am concerned about young people in my family returning to school having seen close up what can happen.

I’m looking at data in the US and Delta appears to be resulting in more hospitalisations but it’s not that clear as the variant is new.

Again this is just my thoughts and observation: Although the threshold is lower for admission it is also much lower for icu because other therapies are now available on ordinary wards that were not a year ago. I don’t think that ICU bed numbers are the indicator of severe covid that they once were.

Data isn’t my strong point I’m just linking my own experience to what I’m seeing in the news. I’m watching the data thread to understand more.

Also what about under 16's with no option of vaccination. No need to isolate in school. Are they sitting ducks?

Yes and their teachers and families.

@BluebellsGreenbells

Also what about under 16's with no option of vaccination. No need to isolate in school. Are they sitting ducks?

Yes and their teachers and families.

I guess the difference with teachers is that most will be vaccinated. The children will not.

@BluebellsGreenbells

Also what about under 16's with no option of vaccination. No need to isolate in school. Are they sitting ducks?

Yes and their teachers and families.

They’re very low risk and the people in their family and their teachers can be vaccinated themselves.

I guess the difference with teachers is that most will be vaccinated. The children will not

I guess you regularly mix indoors with 1000+ other people 5 days a week?

@BluebellsGreenbells

I guess the difference with teachers is that most will be vaccinated. The children will not

I guess you regularly mix indoors with 1000+ other people 5 days a week?

I was referring to the difference between teachers in a school setting versus children in a school setting. The difference being that teachers are likely vaccinated and the children are not.

@whatswithtodaytoday
I think you are spot on there. If anyone looks back to the OG threads back in early March 2020 you will see many of us suffering with very bad symptoms - lot of difficulty breathing etc - and barely any of us went to hospital as were either A) too scared cause we weren’t sure what we had was COVID and if it wasn’t then we definitely didn’t want to catch it and B) those who did try and go to hospital or called 111 were told not to go unless you could not utter a sentence because of your breathlessness.
I have always said that at any other time in my life if I had ever felt as poorly as I did then then I would have brought myself straight to A&E. I did have my husband drive me outside one at one point as I remember feeling like my lungs were almost paralysed after waking from a nap and I really was struggling so badly with my breathing.
Scary times back then!

And I am mid 30’s and consider myself very fit and healthy.

@lunar1

What are the religious reasons for rejecting the vaccine please?

And that’s anecdata

And your point is? That's what an Internet forum is.

At the beginning of the pandemic, we were all told that mainly older and people with existing health conditions were at risk.

But Covid is a weird virus and nobody knows exactly how an individual will be if they get it. That much seems to have become clear.

I don't think it helps to say that the majority recover uneventfully any more.

I do think that the vaccination programme is the only reason we are out of lockdowns currently.

We have had 35 pregnant ladies in our trust in icu in the last 8 weeks. 4 went onto ecmo and lost their babies, 2 died themselves. All were under 40.

@Bakewellisntjustacake

We have had 35 pregnant ladies in our trust in icu in the last 8 weeks. 4 went onto ecmo and lost their babies, 2 died themselves. All were under 40.

That's terribly sad.

@Bakewellisntjustacake

We have had 35 pregnant ladies in our trust in icu in the last 8 weeks. 4 went onto ecmo and lost their babies, 2 died themselves. All were under 40.

Oh no this is so sad. The poor ladies and their families as well as the staff that have to witness this. Must be so distressing. Were they unvaccinated?

[quote SoOvethis]@whatswithtodaytoday
I think you are spot on there. If anyone looks back to the OG threads back in early March 2020 you will see many of us suffering with very bad symptoms - lot of difficulty breathing etc - and barely any of us went to hospital as were either A) too scared cause we weren’t sure what we had was COVID and if it wasn’t then we definitely didn’t want to catch it and B) those who did try and go to hospital or called 111 were told not to go unless you could not utter a sentence because of your breathlessness.
I have always said that at any other time in my life if I had ever felt as poorly as I did then then I would have brought myself straight to A&E. I did have my husband drive me outside one at one point as I remember feeling like my lungs were almost paralysed after waking from a nap and I really was struggling so badly with my breathing.
Scary times back then![/quote]
I could have written this post and agree completely. I think the threshold for hospital was so high last March that a lot of us relatively younger people were at home when at any other time in our lives we’d have been in hospital. I’ve now had long Covid for 17 months and I’m convinced that a bit of oxygen - or any healthcare at all - might have improved my outcome. I was one of those (who are often disbelieved on here) who phoned 111 struggling to breathe and was told “well you’re talking to me”. At one point I needed lifting onto a camping toilet by the bed as I passed out every time I stood. I was in bed for 7 weeks before I was strong enough to walk downstairs. I’ve never been so unwell as I was then (and I’ve been through a few things) and yet nobody was interested. When my lungs were finally listened to in June - 3 months after the event - they still had a crackle on them. When Boris was admitted I was in bed quite cross because I could see he was less ill than I was!

I think back last spring there would have been many, many younger people admitted but hospitals were only dealing with people who were right on death’s door and that skewed the data.

I don't think it helps to say that the majority recover uneventfully any more.

Why? It’s still true.

@bumbleymummy

I don't think it helps to say that the majority recover uneventfully any more.

Why? It’s still true.

It's not that simple. Because covid is an unpredictable illness and it's impossible to predict who will come off worst. Not to mention problems that people are left with afterwards.

@AlexaShutUp

I think delta has a higher rate of hospitalisations among unvaccinated people? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

I don't think that the messaging needs to be changed to say that younger people are now at higher risk. However, I do think that the risks to unvaccinated individuals of any age need to be clearly highlighted.

I agree. After all I suspect some of the most vocal wilfully unvaccinated are at the upper end of this age group.

True point and the messaging has been that we ALL need to be vaccinated so we can't deny that.

A friend of mine is early 20's and has been admitted with seizures due to Covid. She said she felt fine, but she has swelling on the brain which is causing her to have seizures. She hasn't had her vaccination, but will probably do so after this.....

@Bakewellisntjustacake

We have had 35 pregnant ladies in our trust in icu in the last 8 weeks. 4 went onto ecmo and lost their babies, 2 died themselves. All were under 40.

Are you in the UK?

I know 2 people, both early 30s who ended up in ITU, both unvaccinated. One one declined the vaccine and one of them got ill before the vaccine roll out reached her age group. She did not survive and left behind 2 young children. She had no underlying health issues. She was slightly overweight but had lost weight after trying hard to shift the weight to reduce her chance of getting ill with Covid. The other person declined the vaccine and is still in intensive care on a ventilator.