Normal life is back

[ExmoorValley]

I don't know about you but life where I am is pretty much back to normal, masks in shops falling rapidly. People having a good time. Covid barely gets mentioned now. (and yes I know people are still catching it and a tiny proportion will die)

It feels great. So what happened to the 200,000 cases a day doom scenario peddlers on here? They seem rather quiet.......

@TheGenealogist we also now have the AUC. The area under the curve. That could be where the bodies are piling up.
Not sure how noisy the data is though.

your just someone who is willing to sacrifice other people so you can go to the theatre and not wear a mask in Tesco.

So if nobody went to the theatre and everyone wore a mask in Tesco the risk would vanish?

Have theatres replaced nightclubs and holidays as 'non-essential' actitivities which only selfish selfishers do?

here You do know the masks do almost nothing to prevent the spread of covid, if they actually worked do you seriously think millions would have caught covid anyway?

I think it is decent to allow deaf people to communicate
I think it is decent to allow babies and toddlers to learn how to speak properly and read faces
I think it is decent to be able to breathe properly and not feel faint in the heat from a mask, especially when there is no need!
I think it is decent to return to normal after vaccinating over 70% of the population.

I am just not interested in restrictions that are no longer necessary full stop.

Tens of thousands die from flu, but we don't get a running total every winter. I am not sacrificing any more of my life, nor do I expect anyone else to. If you feel unsafe stay at home, or choose quieter times to go out. We have all done more than enough already thank you very much.

[quote Sparklingbrook]@TheGenealogist we also now have the AUC. The area under the curve. That could be where the bodies are piling up.
Not sure how noisy the data is though. [/quote]
Having flashbacks to Maths.. remember asking my teacher when I would EVER have to calculate the area under a curve and he gave me a long convoluted explanation about fences and sheep.

Also amused by the poster angrily proclaiming that people ARE dying.

Well yes, people tend to do that. About 1,500 people every day, because newsflash no-one's immortal.

It's great! I think now people have the option to vaccinate people really are not willing to put up with the doom and gloom now.

Fine if you are vulnerable and can be vaccinated. Pretty shut if you have a vulnerable child who can't be vaccinated.

Now we've moved our holiday life feels very normal. I really hope travel can go back to normal or something more manageable soon, life will never feel completely normal whilst we feel trapped here!

Shit
Although obviously I don't think we can do much more apart from continue yo wear a mask in busy places abd give people space as no one knows what is going in peoples lives.

I am so relieved that life is going back to normal now, and this hysteria might actually die down soon, when there is literally nothing to talk about.

For some people, sadly, covid has become their life. The be all and end all, and honestly for that reason alone I hate the bloody virus, because it has cheated some people, that are importantly still alive and well out of the joy of feeling happiness, relaxed and contented. For some the dark cloud of covid will stay over them long after everyone has escaped into the light, and suffering and fear becomes a full time occupation.

I feel very sorry for them. It must be very intense and scary, particularly now they no longer have the rest of the country to keep them company with their fears.

As time passes, the masks and visas will look more and more out of place, and perhaps then they may get some help. My mother is like this, the government did too good a job of scaring people, and some people are lost to the fear, and some enjoy the drama as their lives are quiet. Overall, this whole anti mask, anti easing of restrictions will quieten, as even the most enthusiastic will come to see that we have landed in a place of relative safety and it is time to move on, and allow themselves some happiness once again.

@stepupandbecounted
here You do know the masks do almost nothing to prevent the spread of covid, if they actually worked do you seriously think millions would have caught covid anyway?

Yep I completely agree with you I was saying, those in charge don't always practice what they preach, look at Starmer pro mask except when he managed to get wembley tickets multiple times.

I feel that apart from medical settings the effect on cases is minimal.

back if your child is CEV you should have been offered a vaccine. Most CEV children are now being offered or have already had the vaccine. Please call the dr and have a conversation about it. There is no reason for you or your child to live in fear now. I know at least four children that have had the vaccine and feel much better for it, and more protected.

Its pretty much back to normal here.

I have to wear a mask in work because its in our policy as we work with vulnerable people. But I never believed they worked anyway. CV is known as an aerosol and the masks we wear do not stop aerosols. I think the masks were a tool to let people think they could be in some form of control. No way would we have had the rise in infections if masks truly worked because the vast majority of people wore them despite what you see on the news.

I've had to have both vaccines because of work and I don't think they are much cop either, the virus will vanish after its killed all the people it can do, just like all the other serious pandemics we've had. We were told at the very start of this it would take 2 years to burn out and we are getting to the tale end of it now.

What bothers me is the way this is being handled in the hospitals, there are wards full of covid patients but they are asymtomatics and there for other reasons, this is causing havoc with staff and space. I will add, this is just two hospitals I know as I have colleagues that have told me this. I don't know what's happening in other hospitals!

I wish “normal” would return in hospitals where people are still not allowed visitors. Where fathers are still restricted from being present at scans and maternity procedures. But as long as people can get fingered in a nightclub or lick the fruit in the local Asda then good for us I suppose.

@IcedPurple

your just someone who is willing to sacrifice other people so you can go to the theatre and not wear a mask in Tesco.

So if nobody went to the theatre and everyone wore a mask in Tesco the risk would vanish?

Have theatres replaced nightclubs and holidays as 'non-essential' actitivities which only selfish selfishers do?

You know perfectly well the point i'm making.

Some people want a normal life but aren't prepared to be part of the death stats themselves.

You know perfectly well the point i'm making.

I don't. I really don't. And I'm not the only one.

Some people want a normal life but aren't prepared to be part of the death stats themselves.

Like most adults, I'm fully vaccinated. The risks of me being severely ill - or worse - are tiny. I'm perfectly happy to take that risk. If others aren't, they can live their lives according to their own risk assessment, just as I will do.

Really tendentious 'argument' from you.

Some people want a normal life but aren't prepared to be part of the death stats themselves

Most likely because they have checked their risk and realised that there is almost no chance at all of becoming seriously ill much less dying from covid, so have quite rightly made a decision to work and live normally. Those at serious risk and still feel unsafe even fully vaccinated can make their own decisions about their exposure to the rest of the world that is entirely up to them. The rest of us need not cower in fear.

The likelihood of a healthy, double vaccinated person being part of the death statistics really are negligible. Risk assessment on here is very inaccurate.

If you are CEV you may want to be a bit more cautious. But let everyone else get on with their lives.

@stepupandbecounted not my child but all CEV kids under 12 who I understand won't be vaccinated as not approved.
The CEV member in our home is DH. We have been careful but have also given our kids freedom to be kids. However definitely nit normal as dd has now been identified as a close contact at a holiday club.
Such is life.

I don't agree with this idea at all, that just because a tiny tiny percentage of the population may be at a slightly more risk from being ill, we must all be held to ransom. It is the most uniquely selfish thing I have ever heard.

The support in real life is just not there anymore for any kind of restriction, and thank goodness for that, we can all get on and have some fun again!

Our hospital definitely allows visitors to everywhere except the covid ward, and maternity too. Perhaps you live in a different country.

I’ve recently moved house, so not sure what normal for my new “here” is. I’ve certainly done and seen plenty of things that were not allowed for a long time, including going to concerts, a cricket match, on the bus and singing in church.

HOWEVER, in the indoor settings, on the bus etc, I am seeing a very high level of mask wearing - and I am pleased about that.

I take the point about lip reading, babies learning to read faces etc. Out of doors, out of doors, out of doors - as much as possible.

@NonagonInfinityOpensTheDoor

I wish “normal” would return in hospitals where people are still not allowed visitors. Where fathers are still restricted from being present at scans and maternity procedures. But as long as people can get fingered in a nightclub or lick the fruit in the local Asda then good for us I suppose.

Thats disgusting.

And I know for a fact fathers are allowed at maternity scans. The hospitals changed their policies a while back (much to the dismay and fight back of some sonographers who were lobbying the BMUS)

And regarding visitors to hospitals - Visits are being allowed depending on the risk to patients depending if its low medium or high. These are permitted with safety measures to protect the vulnerable patient.

So you need to get your facts right.

@Delatron

The likelihood of a healthy, double vaccinated person being part of the death statistics really are negligible. Risk assessment on here is very inaccurate.

If you are CEV you may want to be a bit more cautious. But let everyone else get on with their lives.

I happen to agree but the vaccines aren't 100% and db vaxxed still end up in hospital (esp the elderly) plus there just seems something a bit wrong about being ok with doing nothing at all to limit CV but in doing so increase the risk for many others.

Are there solid stats for who is admitted to hospital, e.g. age, vax status inc the vaccine used, comorbidities

@Aposterhasnoname

Oooo, hello Nanny, I was waiting for you. On July 8th you said there would be 3000 hospitalisations a day in a month. What’s your thoughts on that today?

I was just relaying the projections of the SAGE scientists.

They have explained in multiple interviews why things have taken a slightly different path.

Your agreement just doesn’t stand @jasjas1973 the vaccines are effective enough. You’ll never get 100% effective.

Argument. Not agreement

The support in real life is just not there anymore for any kind of restriction

You may wish that was the case, but in fact the polls and research show continued support for restrictions such as mask wearing and some social distancing.