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Normal life is back

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ExmoorValley · 10/08/2021 13:26

I don't know about you but life where I am is pretty much back to normal, masks in shops falling rapidly. People having a good time. Covid barely gets mentioned now. (and yes I know people are still catching it and a tiny proportion will die)

It feels great. So what happened to the 200,000 cases a day doom scenario peddlers on here? They seem rather quiet.......

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Sparklingbrook · 11/08/2021 20:50

@Quartz2208

Do YouGov still give you £50 for a certain number of polls - I got about £100 ages ago from and by the end I was just ticking boxes just to get through them to get my money!
That's what I did. if everyone's doing that then I'm not sure YouGov is a trusted indcation of what's happening. It took a lot of surveys to get to £50 too!
MarshaBradyo · 11/08/2021 20:50

@wondersun

If you really think it’s over and life back to normal get off mumsnet covid forums and have some fun, don’t keep looking bac& 🤦🏻‍♀️
You are posting

Are you a it’s not normal no fun type ever person then?

Quartz I think so but even then I gave up before getting it

Cam77 · 11/08/2021 20:57

@multivac
Astonishing how 'normal' seems to involve 'bring a bit of a cunt' for so many posters. Still, nice to see 'em having fun I guess.

Well said. And I say that as someone who is out and about, traveling, etc etc. It’s possible to want to everything totally back to normal and to accept that we need to “live with it” - while acknowledging the virus is still causing serious problems and not being a prick about others genuine and well founded concerns.

wondersun · 11/08/2021 21:03

Get down the pub.

Cam77 · 11/08/2021 21:03

@igelkott2021
Things have certainly improved a lot. But I want to be able to go overseas without having to do tests; and go into cafes and bars overseas without having to show vaccination passes. Until that happens we're nowhere near normal.

Agreed. I’d say we’re nowhere near back to normal. More like a somewhat dystopian halfway-house between full on restrictions and society as it was pre 2020.

Back to normal means none of the signs everywhere, full restriction free international travel, no bookings, no masks, no temporary lockdowns, no contact tracing, no vaccine certificates....

wondersun · 11/08/2021 21:06

@MarshaBradyo seriously just don’t understand why anyone would goad if they thought it was over, they just wouldn’t be posting at all.
If life is back to normal where you are and you have no further concerns, just why?
Anyway, I just popped by, night

MarshaBradyo · 11/08/2021 21:10

[quote wondersun]@MarshaBradyo seriously just don’t understand why anyone would goad if they thought it was over, they just wouldn’t be posting at all.
If life is back to normal where you are and you have no further concerns, just why?
Anyway, I just popped by, night[/quote]
Thanks for popping by ;

But I can explain why - I am really relieved numbers have fallen, things have improved, but after such a big deal of last year or so I still like to chat about what’s going on with other reasonable posters. I have fairly filled days as dc on holidays but night time is still the quietness of putting dc to bed.

I don’t want to go to the pub at all, or even drink, but you can if you like?

Wellbythebloodyhell · 11/08/2021 21:46

*The science and the public support the continuation of masks and SD. Johnson prides himself on being a populist, so why isn't he fucking listening to us?
*
Who's stopping anyone from SD or wearing a mask? If the majority of the public wanted these measures they'd do them anyway without having to be told by Boris to do so

HelloMissus · 11/08/2021 21:52

Exactly.
If people want to continue to SD they can easily stay out of theatres and bars and football stadia. They don’t have to visit their family and friends indoors.
They can tell their GP they want a phone appointment and avoid the optician and dentist.
Literally no sky will fall.

Wellbythebloodyhell · 11/08/2021 22:14

Boris doesn't need to mandate anything if "the majority " want to do it of their own free will anyway Confused

Unusualusernames · 12/08/2021 06:10

I think a bit of empathy wouldn't go amiss. Some people are really
Anxious about covid for completely understandable reasons and their way of coping is to think the worst so they can't be unpleasantly surprised.

lannistunut · 12/08/2021 06:40

I think a bit of empathy wouldn't go amiss.

Sadly this is a pipe dream. The aggressive remarks on here alone demonstrate that there are far too many nasty bastards about.

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 12/08/2021 07:30

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Boris doesn't need to mandate anything if "the majority " want to do it of their own free will anyway Confused
???? Some/many would, very reasonably, feel that if others aren’t going to be required to eg wear masks, the exercise becomes less beneficial and the “virtuous circle” (I protect you, you protect me) is no longer intact.

Put another way: nobody else is bothering so why should I?

That situation is completely different to mandated measures.

It is the latter that majority support acc to available evidence.

(And at least where I live the virtuous circle is still very much in existence)

HelloMissus · 12/08/2021 07:42

crying where do you live that people aren’t going to the theatre, nightclubs, restaurants etc? Where they’re not visiting their friends and family inside? where people aren’t attending weddings and funerals?
Cos if you’re just talking about masks and SD in supermarkets then that’s hardly the main issue with transmission, is it?
I mean I wear a mask in a shop out of courtesy, but it’s hardly ‘virtuous’ in terms of Covid when I also attended Wembley. And have been to several parties and the theatre.

stepupandbecounted · 12/08/2021 07:50

Honestly go and get a life, you can't cling to the covid excuse for much longer. If you want to live a small life in a bunker hidden away then no one is stopping you - it is your insistence that we should all be cowering away masked and scared to go anywhere that really is selfish - you want everyone to suffer the same as you.

Where is the empathy for so much lost life, livelihoods, childhoods and well being?

It is not time for empathy now, but a time for action and confidence.

lannistunut · 12/08/2021 07:50

Attendance is not back to pre-pandemic levels.

It feels busy because we are comparing it to lockdown, but my local tourist destination area is reporting declined figures. Businesses are going to find things hard.

I myself will not return to the theatre with cases as high as they are - I went 4-6 times per year. If only 5% of regular customers share my view, that will badly affect margins. Our theatre was usually not sold out, I would say 80% was a normal night. That means there were not people who could not get tickets waiting to pick up my empty spot.

Things are very far from normal.

stepupandbecounted · 12/08/2021 07:51

Bloody virtuous circles! Jesus christ. I am so glad we have more critical thinking here, and people actually check out the science and the facts, and are enjoying the summer enormously. We are not living in a virtuous circle thank god!!

lannistunut · 12/08/2021 07:52

It is not time for empathy now It is always the time for empathy, except for emotionally damaged people, when obviously it is not their fault - but not something to emulate.

stepupandbecounted · 12/08/2021 07:53

I have two shows booked for the autumn, and the Nutcracker in London for Christmas, I can not wait!!!!! The joy of culture again is one of the most exciting, and most theatres are launching an incredible selection for the coming months. Confidence has clearly increased.

HelloMissus · 12/08/2021 07:55

I went to see Amelie at the weekend in the West End - full house.
And you can’t get accommodation in any tourist area for love nor money.
And just try to get a ticket to a prem match. I had to sell a child to get one!
So I’m calling bull shit on ‘people don’t want to do things.’ A minority don’t want to. And the rest are more than making up for it.
Of course there is a reduction in foreign tourists which impacts some numbers. Bet they’ll pour in too when we allow it.

stepupandbecounted · 12/08/2021 08:00

I think those that are saying 'people don't want to do things' have not been out to see what is actually happening.

Every restaurant here is full, every show could be sold many times over, every hotel is full to bursting. The pubs and bars are over flowing with drinks and laughter. Gardens and houses are full of families having fun and enjoying themselves. This is happening. It is packed everywhere, and yet the numbers are not really moving upwards in any significant way, and nor will they as we are over the worst.

We have the closest thing back to a full life at long last, and it always seems to attract the doomsters that now haven't got the sky high infection rate to hold on to, now predicting as they are mystic meg about future problems, all the while missing out on the all fun on the ground.

Time to rejoin the human race folks.

HelloMissus · 12/08/2021 08:10

When thought processes are illogical, the holders of those thoughts seek out the like minded. Especially online.
Those saying people won’t do things for fear of Covid even with no restrictions are the same who were constantly complaining about people doing things when there were restrictions!
Apparently we’re a country of flagrant rule breakers who demand more rules.

liveforsummer · 12/08/2021 08:12

While we are here, if we are back to a normal life will I be able to take Dd with me to my hair appointment today like I would have pre covid or am I going to have cancel last minute because my childcare has fallen through?

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ExmoorValley · 12/08/2021 08:23

@stepupandbecounted

I think those that are saying 'people don't want to do things' have not been out to see what is actually happening.

Every restaurant here is full, every show could be sold many times over, every hotel is full to bursting. The pubs and bars are over flowing with drinks and laughter. Gardens and houses are full of families having fun and enjoying themselves. This is happening. It is packed everywhere, and yet the numbers are not really moving upwards in any significant way, and nor will they as we are over the worst.

We have the closest thing back to a full life at long last, and it always seems to attract the doomsters that now haven't got the sky high infection rate to hold on to, now predicting as they are mystic meg about future problems, all the while missing out on the all fun on the ground.

Time to rejoin the human race folks.

Perfectly put. I feel sorry for the Nanny/Nuts types.
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IcedPurple · 12/08/2021 08:29

*Some/many would, very reasonably, feel that if others aren’t going to be required to eg wear masks, the exercise becomes less beneficial and the “virtuous circle” (I protect you, you protect me) is no longer intact.

Put another way: nobody else is bothering so why should I?

That situation is completely different to mandated measures.

It is the latter that majority support acc to available evidence.*

There was a much quoted poll saying that 70% wanted to keep mandatory mask wearing. Presumably that 70% feel that masks are a good thing and would continue to wear them whether or not they were mandatory.

70% is still a pretty substantial majority. So if all those people who told pollsters they wanted to 'keep masks' were being honest, then it would still be a majority wearing them so still a significant perceived benefit for those who wanted to wear them to continue to wear them.

(And at least where I live the virtuous circle is still very much in existence)

Knock yourselves out.