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Is the worst of coronavirus over now

82 replies

Sadless · 30/07/2021 17:31

Does anyone think that the worst of its over and things will get better from now.
I know things are uncertain but it denifently looks better then a few months ago.

Hopeful

Sal

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FloFlower · 30/07/2021 17:53

I hope so! But I just don’t know.

Iseeyoulookingatme · 30/07/2021 18:01

I hope so but my worry is that it mutates and the vaccine doesn't work. Hopefully we have beaten the worst of it and we can all get on with our lives.

Marguerite2000 · 30/07/2021 18:03

Probably in the UK, yes. There's still a long way to go in some other countries.

Chillychangchoo · 30/07/2021 18:05

If no vaccine resistant strain rears its ugly head we are over the worst.

Bit if though isn’t it?

Chillychangchoo · 30/07/2021 18:05

*big

newnortherner111 · 30/07/2021 18:22

Better in many respects, but we still have an incompetent misogynistic Prime Minister at the helm.

SpringRainbow · 30/07/2021 18:26

Who honestly knows really?

I hope so, I really do. However, I still think things could go either way in the UK.

Globally things are nowhere near over.

PicsInRed · 30/07/2021 18:28

In the west of the northern hemisphere, yes with few exceptions.

Elsewhere in the world, no. Some are still in the thick of it and some are only starting out.

Daisy829 · 30/07/2021 18:28

Yes I think so but I think winter will be pretty crap with all winter bugs we avoided last year but once we are through that it will be much better again. I’m remaining hopeful.

Waveafterwaveslowlydrifting · 30/07/2021 18:29

Selfishly I really hope everything will stay open over the winter. Schools (I'm a teacher with 2 DCs), gyms, restaurants, cafes, shops. Happy to have been vaccinated and I would accept a vaccine passport to keep freedom.

People's health and mental health has suffered and we need to crack on now.

SunbathingDragon · 30/07/2021 18:32

Yes, in the U.K., I think so. We have good vaccines and a good uptake. Viruses tend to mutate gradually, so whilst a vaccine resistant one is a realistic possibility, we will hopefully stay a step ahead.

In somewhere like Africa, I fear they have the worst to come. I hope I am wrong.

helpfulperson · 30/07/2021 18:34

UK I don't think will ever be as bad as it has been but I think we are still a while from it being a distant memory. The rest of the world I think we still have a long way to go.

Orf1abc · 30/07/2021 18:37

We've completely failed to help less developed countries. That's where mutations have the potential to get completely out of control, and all it takes is one person to bring that mutation to another country and we're back to square one.

I hate the phrase, but I fear this cycle of lockdowns is the new normal. It won't get better until we take a far more globalist approach, and understand the value to us of supporting others.

Topseyt · 30/07/2021 18:41

Yes, although there will always be variants and vaccines will have to be tweaked in time for boosters every year for those of us who are eligible (alongside our annual flu vaccines).

We absolutely have to learn to live with Covid now. It won't be eradicated anytime soon. It will keep mutating much like many other viruses do (e.g. colds and flu ones). We simply can't keep trashing the economy and people's businesses and livelihoods.

IcedPurple · 30/07/2021 18:48

@Orf1abc

We've completely failed to help less developed countries. That's where mutations have the potential to get completely out of control, and all it takes is one person to bring that mutation to another country and we're back to square one.

I hate the phrase, but I fear this cycle of lockdowns is the new normal. It won't get better until we take a far more globalist approach, and understand the value to us of supporting others.

Realistically what can 'we' do though?

There are billions of people living in what could be called 'less developed countries'. Many of these countries have high levels of corruption and very poor health infrastructure. I'm not sure what you expect 'us' to do.

lannistunut · 30/07/2021 18:51

We don't know. Case numbers (ONS) today were not great. Autumn will be a bit grim.

Imagine it without vaccines Shock

Agree globally it is going to get much, much worse.

brideyb · 30/07/2021 19:10

Yes

Itsprobablynotcominghome · 30/07/2021 19:11

@IcedPurple

Well, short term not give them vaccines that are expiring within months, because we held on to them too long hoping the anti-vaxxers would pop into their local walk in one day.

Provide all the equipment required to vaccinate the number of people for the doses. Coordinate efforts via Medicin San Frontiers etc. You could argue that the West should actively encourage large numbers of trained professionals to volunteer with MSF in some sort of global effort. Provide expertise with database generation and establish infrastructure for roll-out (if needed).

Obviously if these countries say they can do it, fine, but if they want help, then in a non-“white saviour”, we should help. A) because it’s in our own self interest but also B) because we all live on this planet and we should all care for one another for fucks sake.

But back to reality, fuck em. We’re sorted, we’re great. We’re building a boat to show everyone how great we are.

Let’s not help anyone, because these countries are corrupt and have shit healthcare systems.

Buzzinwithbez · 30/07/2021 19:14

ONS case numbers are out of date. 4th-11th July.
We have data for positive cases up to 25th July. The latest 7 day average shows a 35 percent decrease on the previous week.
(28,286 Vs 43,482)

More significantly, the test positivity rate is also down 20 percent, showing it's a true decrease and not just down to fewer tests being carried out.

clickychicky · 30/07/2021 19:18

I don't think it will ever be over

GetTaeFuck · 30/07/2021 19:20

Scientist here.

I want to say yes, but the science brain in me says wait for the second winter… Most pandemics have a worse second winter Sad

clickychicky · 30/07/2021 19:22

@GetTaeFuck

Scientist here.

I want to say yes, but the science brain in me says wait for the second winter… Most pandemics have a worse second winter Sad

Do they? Why is that?
IcedPurple · 30/07/2021 19:23

Well, short term not give them vaccines that are expiring within months, because we held on to them too long hoping the anti-vaxxers would pop into their local walk in one day.

As I said, there are billions of people in the 'developing world', almost none of whom have been vaccinated. Where exactly are all these billions of vaccines we can 'give them'?

Provide all the equipment required to vaccinate the number of people for the doses. Coordinate efforts via Medicin San Frontiers etc.

You make it sound so simple.

Again, where are all these billions of doses going to come from? And how can they be distributed in countries with huge corruption and creaking infrastructure? And do the countries themselves have any responsibility for their own problems, or is it just us?

IcedPurple · 30/07/2021 19:24

@GetTaeFuck

Scientist here.

I want to say yes, but the science brain in me says wait for the second winter… Most pandemics have a worse second winter Sad

What field of science are you in?
Itsprobablynotcominghome · 30/07/2021 19:24

@GetTaeFuck

Scientist here.

I want to say yes, but the science brain in me says wait for the second winter… Most pandemics have a worse second winter Sad

Well, I’d say we (U.K., and Europe etc) are on our 2.5th winter?