Teens will not be routinely vaccinated, JCVI recommends

[noblegiraffe]

Their report isn't out till tomorrow, but continuing with the govt tradition of making big announcements via favoured news outlets, the Telegraph reports that the guidance will be that children aged 12+ will not be offered routine covid vaccinations.

"Instead, under guidance due to be issued on Monday, jabs will be offered to children between 12 and 15 who are deemed vulnerable to Covid or who live with adults who are immunosuppressed or otherwise vulnerable to the virus. They will also now be offered to all 17-year-olds within three months of their 18th birthday."

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/17/children-will-get-covid-vaccines-vulnerable/

So from September, there will be literally nothing stopping covid spreading around schools bar the odd open window.

Slow clap for these clowns.

Not enough vaccine I expect!

New supplies of Pfizer are due in September so while there wouldn't be enough to vaccinate over the holidays, I think it would be feasible later on.

I hope they change their minds.

Our government seems to be deciding against all of the things that we have available to stop the virus spreading.

Schools will be a shitstorm in the autumn.

I’m glad they’ve reached this decision. DS is 13 and I wouldn't have let him have the vaccine anyway - I don’t think enough is known about the long term side effects so risk possibly outweighs the benefit in vaxxing teens. (Not anti vaccine btw, DH and I are fully jabbed.)

@Appuskidu the bloody vaccine is more dangerous than covid to kids ffs I am sick of seeing all the jab kids posts. You want yours jabbed fine, do it - but not everyone wants them jabbed

Awful decision. Hope it gets overturned soon. It’s already been approved by the MRHA to be safe and the benefits outweigh the risks. And it’s been given to millions of teens in other countries.

@halcyondays prove how it's safer for kids?

I'm very disappointed about this. I would have liked to have the choice. Not sure why it's a "good thing" as I'm sure the less than 10% of parents who don't support it could, er, just not vaccinate their child?

Not sure what counts as a vulnerable child, but I'm glad they are going to be offering them to kids with immunosuppressed parents.

@noblegiraffe

New supplies of Pfizer are due in September so while there wouldn't be enough to vaccinate over the holidays, I think it would be feasible later on.

They're going to need that for boosters for over 50s plus flu jab list.

Good. Morally wrong to inject children with it.

So, no vaccine for all children and (potentially) no isolation of contacts either.

Can’t wait.

[quote CantGetNoSleep73]@Appuskidu the bloody vaccine is more dangerous than covid to kids ffs I am sick of seeing all the jab kids posts. You want yours jabbed fine, do it - but not everyone wants them jabbed [/quote]
But none of us can, under these circumstances? Hardly choice is it. Also, your data is wrong.

@noblegiraffe

New supplies of Pfizer are due in September so while there wouldn't be enough to vaccinate over the holidays, I think it would be feasible later on.

Maybe that’s why, then when they have more supplies it will be offered. Can’t see any other genuine reason why they wouldn’t give it to this age group.

That was sarcasm by the way.

Getting vulnerable kids and those living with vulnerable people jabbed is a good thing, sure?

That's fine, I have no problem with non-vulnerable kids not being vaccinated as the risks of Covid to kids are so low.

However, that also means they have to scrap the school "bubbles" and self-isolating nonsense too.

[quote CantGetNoSleep73]@Appuskidu the bloody vaccine is more dangerous than covid to kids ffs I am sick of seeing all the jab kids posts. You want yours jabbed fine, do it - but not everyone wants them jabbed [/quote]
It isn’t, the jab is safer than catching Covid. And we can’t have our kids jabbed if they don’t offer it to them, can we?

And if they do, it will be up to parents or teens to decide, if they want it, nobody is forcing you to have it. But the 90% who want it to be made available would have the chance to have it.

However, that also means they have to scrap the school "bubbles" and self-isolating nonsense too.

The vaccine for 12+ WAS the way out of the "school bubbles and self-isolating nonsense". Just as it was for adults.

You want yours jabbed fine, do it

I can’t, that’s the point.

I want it to be offered to 12-17 year olds so that my teens can have it. Hopefully that choice will become available to us soon. You can then choose to withhold it from your children if you want to.

@Bordois

Getting vulnerable kids and those living with vulnerable people jabbed is a good thing, sure?

Yeah, I am glad those children are getting jabbed. That must be a relief for a lot of parents who have been very worried.

However, I thought the reason why non CV and CEV adults had to get jabbed was mainly to offer extra protection to those that were CV & CEV.

Let’s face it we are vaccinating a lot of adults who most likely be perfectly fine if they caught the virus.

Why does the same not apply to children?

@noblegiraffe

New supplies of Pfizer are due in September so while there wouldn't be enough to vaccinate over the holidays, I think it would be feasible later on.

These will be needed for all those poor sods that have had AZ so need a booster.

Plus it's cheaper for kids to get it than pay for their vaccs.

But don’t you think the JCVI may be better placed to make the decision than us? We’re supposed to be following the science, after all.
I personally have no problem with the vaccination being offered to over 12’s, but surely there is a reason the JCVI have decided against it?

@TheGenealogist

That's fine, I have no problem with non-vulnerable kids not being vaccinated as the risks of Covid to kids are so low.

However, that also means they have to scrap the school "bubbles" and self-isolating nonsense too.

I thought scrapping isolation for under 18s was eventually the plan?