Endangering the World?

[sadperson16]

Really, no wonder people have MH issues with nonsense lik ethis about.

I read this headline and thought exactly the same op. Perspective seems to have gone completely out of the window.

Its actually an accurate headline. If you don't want to believe it, that's up to you.

It's accurate, by letting it escalate so much we've become prime candidates for producing new variants which for us with high vaccine take up may not be horrendous, but once it gets hold of largely unvaccinated third world populations it has the potential to be catastrophic so yeah we are endangering the world.

We are not endangering the World. The world/ nature will be perfectly fine without humans.

But yeah, we are probably endangering man kind with encouraging the spread of the virus.

But the world endangered us !!!! The virus did not originate here, neither did the dominant delta variant.

What's the evidence that we have let it escalate more than many other countries have? Our number of cases per million population puts us at 39th in the world. And we're doing more testing than lots of other countries so it's probably lower in reality.

@DottyHarmer

But the world endangered us !!!! The virus did not originate here, neither did the dominant delta variant.

This is exactly how I feel!

The idea that it’s more out of control here than, for example, India is ridiculous

@Ylvamoon

We are not endangering the World. The world/ nature will be perfectly fine without humans. But yeah, we are probably endangering man kind with encouraging the spread of the virus.

If you want to be pedantic: 'endangering the human world'.

The issue is that we're doing exactly what a scientist would do in the lab if they wanted to create a vaccine resistant strain. High numbers of cases plus a large number of people with partial immunity is a recipe for disaster.

@HermioneWeasley

The idea that it’s more out of control here than, for example, India is ridiculous

Are India having hundreds of thousands of people gathering like sardines outside sports stadiums and opening all their nightclubs and sports stadiums etc with no social distancing and no requirements to wear masks?

Yeah, just the UK that’s doing bad things. As usual The Laughing Stock of the World. Oh, and everyone loves kids in Europe, just to get that one in too.

Are India having hundreds of thousands of people gathering like sardines outside sports stadiums and opening all their nightclubs and sports stadiums etc with no social distancing and no requirements to wear masks?

Have you seen the way many people in India live? Social distancing is simply impossible, not for hundreds of thousands of people, but for hundreds of millions.

@DottyHarmer

Yeah, just the UK that’s doing bad things. As usual The Laughing Stock of the World. Oh, and everyone loves kids in Europe, just to get that one in too.

Don't forget 'watching in horror'.

@rosie39forever

It's accurate, by letting it escalate so much we've become prime candidates for producing new variants which for us with high vaccine take up may not be horrendous, but once it gets hold of largely unvaccinated third world populations it has the potential to be catastrophic so yeah we are endangering the world.

I agree. We are now a breeding ground for a vaccine resistant variant, as so many vaccinated people are catching covid.

Have you seen the way many people in India live? Social distancing is simply impossible, not for hundreds of thousands of people, but for hundreds of millions.

That's not something they can really do anything about, not right now. The kamikaze freedom day is choice.

@User135644

Have you seen the way many people in India live? Social distancing is simply impossible, not for hundreds of thousands of people, but for hundreds of millions.

That's not something they can really do anything about, not right now. The kamikaze freedom day is choice.

It was also India's choice to allow mass political rallies, sports events and religious festivals to go ahead several months ago, which is how the Delta variant spread, 'endangering the world', in the first place.

So are we saying that because India did it, then it's ok for us to do it to. I thought this was mumsnet not kidsnet

@Fivetoomany

So are we saying that because India did it, then it's ok for us to do it to. I thought this was mumsnet not kidsnet

Firstly, dropping restrictions in an unvaccinated population - as India did - is not the same as doing so in a largely vaccinated population.

Secondly, I was responding to a poster who seemed to think that social distancing is possible in a country like India.

@IcedPurple the comment wasn't aimed at you. I agree we are endangering other countries.

I just can't believe the comments upthread along the lines of ' China started it' 'India created a new variant'.

Sounds very much like my 5 year olds reasoning.

“Are India having hundreds of thousands of people gathering like sardines outside sports stadiums and opening all their nightclubs and sports stadiums etc with no social distancing and no requirements to wear masks?“

Wow this has got to be the most ignorant laughable comment I’ve read for a while.
The UK in full non restrictions mode with double the population wouldn’t even touch the sides of how crowded and on top of each many places in India are 😩

@User135644

Have you seen the way many people in India live? Social distancing is simply impossible, not for hundreds of thousands of people, but for hundreds of millions.

That's not something they can really do anything about, not right now. The kamikaze freedom day is choice.

Is it a choice though? Maybe for you but for other reasons and people it’s not a choice without bankrupsy and harm to future generations and the prosperity of this country longer term.

Genuine question, how does it differ from, say, Florida, which I believe has just banned local authorities from implementing covid measures and is seeing a big rise in cases.
To be clear, I am not saying that because Florida has no restrictions, we don’t have to either. My question is more about why this language isn’t also directed at somewhere like Florida. I’ve seen no global “watching in horror” of Florida with its 55% first vaccine rate and rising cases (and hospitalisations) of the delta variant. Is it just that people don’t know the situation there, and the situation in UK is more widely reported? Therefore generates more concern? I’m sure there is a reason for the difference, I just don’t know what it is.

It is infuriating.
I think we’re just further along in our roll out, hence the attacks.
I’ll be interested to see what other countries get also attacked when they open at the same or similar vaccination levels as us. What if some countries never achieve our levels? Will they get attacked too?
The US is more open than us with lower vaccination levels. Why does no one call out Joe Biden?

@rosie39forever

It's accurate, by letting it escalate so much we've become prime candidates for producing new variants which for us with high vaccine take up may not be horrendous, but once it gets hold of largely unvaccinated third world populations it has the potential to be catastrophic so yeah we are endangering the world.

Don’t be ridiculous. Do you not think the largely unvaccinated developing countries with much populations are more likely to produce variants?