Schools from September

[DinosaurDiana]

I was working in a school yesterday and the lady helping me said that all staff are in next Monday Tuesday to put the school back to normal.
All stickers are being removed, all classrooms and rooms put back to the way they were pre Covid.
So are all schools going back to normal ?

Good.

They will be until the Government send out a last minute updated Guidance at 11pm one night!

Bold to move it all back now, given Boris’s fondness for a last minute announcement. Could end up being a total waste of time if it all has to be put back.

Hope so

@ineedaholidaynow

They will be until the Government send out a last minute updated Guidance at 11pm one night!

after the kids have all been back...

I assume all stickers etc, will be put in storage, as I will be amazed if they won't be needed again. All schools need to have a plan in place to bring back bubbles etc if required if rates are high in their area.

Yep, apart from testing on the first day of term everything back like it's 2019. Full school assemblies, travelling around school for class, all canteens back to free for all. What possibly could go wrong?

@herecomesthsun probably do the one day back thing again (I know some schools in some areas go back a a few weeks before most schools) so have them all in one day saying everything is fine, schools are safe etc, then that evening say schools have to bring in measures/shut the next day

Let’s hope that’s true

At our school they are losing the staggered start but keeping the one way system.

I need to remember to buy popcorn to watch the inevitable parking carnage from my bedroom window...

They'll issue schools guidance the Friday evening before the August Bank Holiday weekend. Schools back on the 1st, so another holiday for headteachers/SLT to spend figuring out whatever the government have decided.

Excellent news!!

Wonder if all the people saying excellent news have CEV child, or whether they will be saying the same thing if their child develops long COVID or T1 diabetes

I can’t imagine the school I work in is just going to revert to its pre-pamdemic state in September. That would seem a really unintelligent thing to do.

I would envisage that we will keep the perspex screens, hand-sanitising stations, one-way system, etc. And will probably continue with staff meetings via Teams and stuff like that.

I’m a bit bewildered that people seem to think the lifting of the restrictions means the virus is no longer a concern. The virus doesn’t care what Boris or Gav say…

@ineedaholidaynow

Wonder if all the people saying excellent news have CEV child, or whether they will be saying the same thing if their child develops long COVID or T1 diabetes

Posts like this confuse me. Covid is going around while the restrictions are in place, so they are no guarantee that a child won't get it. Yes there will be more covid around without restrictions but there is a risk no matter what.

Stickers were removed a while ago where I was working... the teenagers had discovered the wonderful fun of turning the one way arrow ones around to make visitors to the school get completely lost.

I admired the spirit of teenage pushing their luck still being completely alive and well.

But there will be a higher risk @TheDailyCarbunkle. If they are saying they are looking at over 100k new cases a day, there is a much higher risk that your child will catch COVID than if there are 5k cases a day. Schools are the one place come September that will have the most unvaccinated people in them ie the children. The CEV guidance says you should try and avoid unvaccinated people, can someone tell me how a CEV child does that?

@ineedaholidaynow

But there will be a higher risk *@TheDailyCarbunkle*. If they are saying they are looking at over 100k new cases a day, there is a much higher risk that your child will catch COVID than if there are 5k cases a day. Schools are the one place come September that will have the most unvaccinated people in them ie the children. The CEV guidance says you should try and avoid unvaccinated people, can someone tell me how a CEV child does that?

They can't, basically. No one can. So the choice is to stay at home forever or accept that every interaction carries a risk. It's not a great choice but that's they way it is. Expecting there to be zero risk is unrealistic.

No one really knows, do they? Unless longer term hospitalisations and deaths really start getting to big numbers, I don't think there'll need to be widespread restrictions, especially with restrictions that don't really make much difference. If numbers in hospital and dying get back to big numbers, then surely we'd need a proper lockdown, i.e. schools closed rather than poxy signage that's likely to be ignored.

@ineedaholidaynow

But there will be a higher risk *@TheDailyCarbunkle*. If they are saying they are looking at over 100k new cases a day, there is a much higher risk that your child will catch COVID than if there are 5k cases a day. Schools are the one place come September that will have the most unvaccinated people in them ie the children. The CEV guidance says you should try and avoid unvaccinated people, can someone tell me how a CEV child does that?

The only way to be safe is not send such kids to school at all. One way systems, ventilation, desks spread out, no assemblies, etc., is giving very little protection when kids are otherwise sat together in pretty small classrooms.

I’m not expecting there to be zero risk, but to go to a situation where there are a huge number of cases and no mitigation in place seems ridiculous and hugely risky. Have any countries used this strategy with the same number of cases?

I actually hope since restrictions stay. In just one year group at my primary, there have been at least seven positive cases (mostly children) since the May half-term and the bubbles have closed twice. I can't imagine what the spread would be like without any restrictions.

@DinosaurDiana

I was working in a school yesterday and the lady helping me said that all staff are in next Monday Tuesday to put the school back to normal. All stickers are being removed, all classrooms and rooms put back to the way they were pre Covid. So are all schools going back to normal ?

Let’s hope so.

Yes there will be more covid around without restrictions but there is a risk no matter what.

You know how risk works, right? More Covid = more risk. Less Covid = less risk. Those who are vulnerable aren’t looking for no risk, they are asking people to help keep the risk low.

@ineedaholidaynow

I agree. There are going to be children and teens who needlessly contract covid and who struggle for an extended period, possibly life. The lack of concern for the CEV and CV is typical of this forum and incredibly upsetting. Apparently neither their mental health nor their physical health matters as long as everyone else is OK.

As for type 1, it is considered that sufferers are born with a propensity for the disease and that at some point it is triggered by a virus. So it is likely that anyone who gets it because of covid would have got it at some point anyway. Not that it makes it any easier.