Schools from September

[DinosaurDiana]

I was working in a school yesterday and the lady helping me said that all staff are in next Monday Tuesday to put the school back to normal.
All stickers are being removed, all classrooms and rooms put back to the way they were pre Covid.
So are all schools going back to normal ?

Been a while since the Teacher Bashers were out in force. Welcome back.

@Kazzyhoward
Quite right. I don’t want another lockdown butI intend to make the most of it before we are placed in one again.

Do we all accept, therefore, that schools cannot return to ‘normal’ as the slacker, waste-of-space, inferior keyworker teachers will catch Covid (at school or out partying, delete as appropriate) and there won’t be any staff to run them? Perhaps some of the better standard keyworkers will step in?

I teach in primary. I get the reason why primary children wont be vaccinated but I'm still not relishing going back to work in september in pretty much the one guaranteed environment where large numbers of unvaccinated people can spread the virus.

I'm isolating now, not because I have been infected but because it is spreading through my class. Thurs we knew of one child, Friday it was 3 who had tested positive and today I'm hearing of more.
And even double jabbed we know adults can still get it and still be fairly ill with it. So you'll excuse me for not wanting things to immediately go back to normal.

I teach in Wales. Operating guidelines for Sept are not far different from what we have had to work under this year.

BustopherPonsonbyJones

Do we all accept, therefore, that schools cannot return to ‘normal’ as the slacker, waste-of-space, inferior keyworker teachers will catch Covid (at school or out partying, delete as appropriate) and there won’t be any staff to run them? Perhaps some of the better standard keyworkers will step in?

Surely the army of volunteers that twatsforthemselves organised are as ready to step up as they have been all the way through this?

I teach in college so some of the issues are a bit less intense than in school classrooms. Nevertheless I think ventilation is the only real priority. One way systems and constant sanitising are pointless IMO and I hope they go.

I presume there won't be many teachers who aren't having a "normal" life outside their schools, just like most other people.

That depends.

I would like to see my (very elderly, double vaccinated but obviously unlikely to have mounted a particularly strong antibody response due to their age) parents over the summer.#

I would also like to see a CEV friend.

The only sensible thing to do, given the number of cases in my (school) workplace and the community, is to very greatly restrict my contacts in the period leading up to each of those visits.

So no, I will not be having a 'normal' life outside my school over the summer, and in terms time from September I will of course reduce my out of school contacts as close to zero as possible while cases remain high, for their safety (as all work in lower risk environments than I do).

I am by no means unusual amongst my colleagues. Certainly anyone with responsibility for elderly relatives (ie most of my age group) will be restricting their behaviour significantly and have done so throughout.

@Faffinator

I teach in college so some of the issues are a bit less intense than in school classrooms. Nevertheless I think ventilation is the only real priority. One way systems and constant sanitising are pointless IMO and I hope they go.

Ventilation, and all measures that allow social distancing. Much of the rest is 'hygiene theatre', designed to make schools look safe while having almost no effect.

Ds2's special school sent home a letter from the governors that pretty much said bugger that. There's a lot that they are keeping and they're fully prepared to put things back again. They have a lot of cev kids.

I do t know what the plan is but I’d like to be able to go into the schools at some point, watch a performance etc

Masks appear to have been working pretty well in school then got 'cancelled'.

By the way most teachers I know have not been leading normal lives. Even when allowed to mix with others many of us avoided seeing family till we've been out of school for ten days for example because we knew we were high risk and didn't want to risk family members.

It is silly now, given all of them now admit schools are a massive centre of spread, to pretend teachers are at no more risk than anyone else. I do wonder how many people here would be happy to be in small poorly ventilated rooms with 150 unvaccinated people per day without masks or ventilation.

By the way we haven't striked and we have just gotten on with it - the idea that we should do that AND not even have the audacity to ask for some basic mitigations or consideration of safety is a bit much.

Doh! I'm on holiday and don't intend to spend it being goaded. Regardless of public opinion, or at least a focal portion of mn opinion, I've worked bloody hard this year through some really difficult times under massive pressure and I've done my best for all my students against the odds. So I shall hide this thread and have a tipple of my home made raspberry gin.

My school are keeping everything the way it is until October half term at the earliest, they are fed up of being made to feel incompetent when the government change the rules last minute and the staff have to bare the brunt of angry parents.

@Kazzyhoward

I presume there won't be many teachers who aren't having a "normal" life outside their schools, just like most other people.

Its not that long ago that various posters were telling teachers that they should hold themselves to higher standards than other keyworkers, as they should think of the childcare children.

Plan is back to normal for the 3 schools I work/have kids in. In person whole school staff meetings for INSET and school back to normal for the kids. Let’s see when the school guidance materialises but I would not surprised if schools aren’t allowed to keep restrictions such as school bubbles or masks unless they are in a high risk areas and are directed to do so.

@DrMadelineMaxwell

I teach in primary. I get the reason why primary children wont be vaccinated but I'm still not relishing going back to work in september in pretty much the one guaranteed environment where large numbers of unvaccinated people can spread the virus.

I'm isolating now, not because I have been infected but because it is spreading through my class. Thurs we knew of one child, Friday it was 3 who had tested positive and today I'm hearing of more.
And even double jabbed we know adults can still get it and still be fairly ill with it. So you'll excuse me for not wanting things to immediately go back to normal.

I teach in Wales. Operating guidelines for Sept are not far different from what we have had to work under this year.

Ooh. I live in wales and it's unclear as to whether children will have to isolate if they are a close contact of someone who tests positive. My DS is 9 and I'm hoping the rules in sept will be that children don't self isolate unless they are ill/ have access+ ve PCR.

Can you clear it up?

This was reported a few weeks ago.

Face masks will no longer be required in classrooms and whole classes will not need to self-isolate if a pupil tests positive for coronavirus from September.

The Education Minister Jeremy Miles MS has written to all headteachers and principals outlining how schools and colleges across Wales can operate safely from the autumn term.

Class 'bubbles' will no longer be needed with the test and trace system being used to identify only close contacts of students who have tested positive.

So no whole class bubbles. And no reliance on school doing the tracing. But currently no blanket rule that children wont have to isolate at all.

My child’s school isn’t still enforcing masks and staggered starts