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How do I get my CEV child a covid vaccine. She is 12

72 replies

worktrip · 14/07/2021 20:14

Just that. I called my GP and got nowhere. Is there a number to call. She has a paediatrician and a neurologist.

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greenmacaron · 14/07/2021 20:18

Are you in the UK? If so, you won’t be able to get her a vaccine. They’re only available for over-18s and aren’t licensed in the UK for children, whatever their medical issues. You can’t buy them or get them privately.

It may not be much comfort, but for what it’s worth, there have been very few cases of serious Covid in children, even those with medical issues.

Minniemummy19 · 14/07/2021 20:28

The Pfizer vaccine has been approved for 12-15 year olds I understand it is down to their consultants to approve though rather than gp.
I'm on a health page for a condition my children have and a couple of 12 year olds on there have been given it.

CindersCatsSister · 14/07/2021 20:31

Your consultant should decide if she should have it. Can you email them?

nether · 14/07/2021 20:34

It'll have to be her lead consultant, who will have to assess her against various criteria. Not all u16 CEV children are eligible, unfortunately

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 14/07/2021 20:36

@greenmacaron

Are you in the UK? If so, you won’t be able to get her a vaccine. They’re only available for over-18s and aren’t licensed in the UK for children, whatever their medical issues. You can’t buy them or get them privately.

It may not be much comfort, but for what it’s worth, there have been very few cases of serious Covid in children, even those with medical issues.

My SEN son had both jabs (Pfizer) despite being under 18. He was actually fully vaccinated before his 50+ year old parents!

Dies your GP have your son registered as CEV?

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worktrip · 14/07/2021 20:48

@BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou I'm not sure as all our medical needs are at the hospital. I called 119 as advised by the GP surgery and spoke to someone who said he is not eligible, but Pfizer are trialling it for 12-18 year olds.

I'm going to try my paediatrician first but I'll contact a friend whose 12 yo had it already.

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meow1989 · 14/07/2021 20:55

@worktrip if your child has a paediatrician you need to contact them and ask them to write a Patient Specific Directive for the vaccine for your child. It is very unlikely a GP will agree to do it as it needs to be someone who knows the young person and their condition incredibly well. The paediatrician should be very aware of the Green Book (which sets out vaccination guidance) which states what can and cannot be given to children over 12 years if the risk of having it is less than the risk of contracting covid.

If not your child's paediatrician then their neurologist should be able to do this, dependant on why they are cev (ie: if its not to do with neuro obviously the neurologist won't).

There is of course a possibility that the clinical you speak to may feel it is not in your child's best interest and if this is the case you can ask for their specific rationale.

PurpleSunrise · 14/07/2021 20:58

@greenmacaron

Are you in the UK? If so, you won’t be able to get her a vaccine. They’re only available for over-18s and aren’t licensed in the UK for children, whatever their medical issues. You can’t buy them or get them privately.

It may not be much comfort, but for what it’s worth, there have been very few cases of serious Covid in children, even those with medical issues.

Please be careful before giving incorrect advice like this…
MyDcAreMarvel · 14/07/2021 20:58

Mine went to a walk in and had Pfizer, 12 and over can have it. Do you have any walk in clinics near you op?

LuxOlente · 14/07/2021 21:19

@MyDcAreMarvel

Mine went to a walk in and had Pfizer, 12 and over can have it. Do you have any walk in clinics near you op?
In the US, sure.

It's not approved for children here and anyone found injecting under 18s in the UK would be in a shitload of trouble.

LuxOlente · 14/07/2021 21:20

(I mean injecting random kids who attend a walk-in center, not kids with specific medical needs and exemptions.)

dancemom · 14/07/2021 21:21

Where in the UK are you? Health is a devolved issue, each country has its own vaccination rules

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 14/07/2021 21:43

@dancemom

Where in the UK are you? Health is a devolved issue, each country has its own vaccination rules
MHRA and JCVI act for the whole of the UK
HairyMaclary · 14/07/2021 22:10

Pfizer is only available for CEV and CV (ie groups 1-6) for 16 and over. No healthy 16-18 year olds can get it. I rang my GP on my son16th birthday to get his sorted.

For an under 16 year old your best bet is to get them on a trial. I’m not sure how you would access that though.

MyDcAreMarvel · 15/07/2021 00:02

@LuxOlente my daughter is group 6 , she should have had her vaccine in April but was not told , hence being told to attend a walk in.

MyDcAreMarvel · 15/07/2021 00:03

@LuxOlente my daughter is healthy I am not.

garlictwist · 15/07/2021 06:28

Genuine question - why isn't it licenced for children? What's the difference between being 12 and being 18 or 30 or 60? Surely it would work the same?

TuckMyWin · 15/07/2021 06:38

Unfortunately, no, vaccines in children do not always work the same as in adults. As the children left with lifelong narcolepsy after the swine flu vaccine found out.

TuckMyWin · 15/07/2021 06:42

PS. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I have had both jabs and my children are fully vaccinated, including with vaccines I have had to pay for (chickenpox). But it’s a fact that vaccines in children do not always work the same was in adults, as demonstrated by the rare side effects of the Pandemrix vaccine in children. That’s why there have to be careful studies and the risk benefit of vaccination children may be different. If the risk of being harmed by the vaccine is greater than the risk of getting covid, for them, it becomes unethical to give it to them.

3WildOnes · 15/07/2021 08:56

I didn’t realise that CEV children under 16 could get the vaccine if their paediatrician approved? Could someone confirm this? We have a CEV child with complex needs in our extended family, I know her parents are desperate for her to be vaccinated and as a family they have now been shielding for over a year but have been told by their consultants that she is not eligible (for now) until she is 16.

TakeYourFinalPosition · 15/07/2021 08:58

@3WildOnes Only if the risk from taco if outweighs the risk from the vaccine. If they’ve talked to their consultants and they’ve told her she’s not eligible, she probably doesn’t come under the guidance, sadly. It’s very limited.

PheasantsNest · 15/07/2021 09:12

@greenmacaron @LuxOlente @HairyMaclary My 16 year old had their vaccinations months ago due to me being CEV. It is perfectly legal and allowed in the UK.

3WildOnes · 15/07/2021 14:28

Her needs are very complex and she often ends up in hospital from colds so I would think if anyone were eligible then she would be. They have been told that they are only allowed discretion to give to 16-18 year olds, not under 16s. Are the doctors misinformed?!

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 15/07/2021 14:40

It’s not approved for children here and anyone found injecting under 18s in the UK would be in a shitload of trouble.

I’m in the U.K. and my son had Pfizer under 18 years old. He is not CEV, he has autism so was vaccinated “because he is mask exempt” despite the fact that he always wears a mask.

Effinell · 15/07/2021 15:46

I'm in Scotland and 16 year old DD, who has learning disabilities, has had her first Pfizer vaccine.

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