Future generations will judge us harshly

[MyGardenSanctuary]

In years to come, people will be horrified at how we handled this pandemic.
We've denied kids (from babies to teenagers) a decent education and proper social contact for 18 months, isolated the vulnerable and elderly out of fear, delayed cancer treatment, denied access to dentist, doctors, support groups, banned partners who didnt live together from seeing each other, banging fucking saucepans, washing shopping, quarantining post, banning grandparents from seeing and hugging their families, dodging people on pavements in case we killed them, abusing those without a mask....I could go on.

Future generations are going to laugh at how this was handled and how we just took it.

Oh and totally fucked up the economy for the foreseeable.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Kept hundreds of thousands alive and healthy ....

The percent of young people with long covid complications will probably think a bit more highly of the things people did to try to protect others from getting it.

I think you are broadly speaking right.

Looking back, what will stand out as extraordinary is how little effort was put into trying to calculate the long term impact of harsh lockdowns on society. At least that way we could have had a more balanced debate about what to do and the consequences it was going to have.

What happened was that the threat of Covid drowned out all nuance in the debate. And that was because Covid was new, killed quickly, hit populations that hadn't dealt with killer infectious disease for a while. It suited the government agenda to ramp up the fear to totally ridiculous levels to drive compliance, but that had many, many problematic consequences.

They’ll be too busy trying to survive.

I don’t think we will. Collective amnesia will set in. We don’t judge the response to the 1918 pandemic do we? I think we’ll be too busy looking forward to look back.

Possibly. But we'll be dead so we won't care. 😁

From here, the biggest question seems to be why we didn't lock down extremely fast, extremely hard in the first place and stop all this from ever getting out of hand?
We then could have kept tight control on borders and lived pretty normal lives otherwise. People could have kept their jobs, children wouldn't have missed out on school. And we'd just have to deal with the odd breakout and hard lockdown every few months. That would have been the way to go.

Or we could be like Brazil and be suffering the effects of a broken health system and soaring maternal and infant deaths or having to find our own oxygen for relatives like in India or Nepal (ok we start from a better service but overwhelmed is overwhelmed). Its not that we can either lockdown or carry on as normal - that would have led to collapse too. It sucks that there are no easy or right answers just risk decisions.

@GingerAndTheBiscuits

I don’t think we will. Collective amnesia will set in. We don’t judge the response to the 1918 pandemic do we? I think we’ll be too busy looking forward to look back.

Not sure I agree with this. It is the first time in history that countries around the world have locked down. I think it will be widely studied

couldn't care less because there's nothing I can do about it.

many decisions were made too late by this ridiculous government.
many decisions were made by thick, selfish people.

I could control neither.
some of us we did our best🤷‍♀️

From here, the biggest question seems to be why we didn't lock down extremely fast, extremely hard in the first place and stop all this from ever getting out of hand?

Mostly because that wasn’t in the official pandemic response plans, even from the likes of the WHO.

What Sweden did was much closer to what most countries had as their ‘official’ pandemic response.

But then China locked down, the pics from Italy spooked everyone and the west slapped down lockdowns without much prior planning.

“Future generations” will probably look at the modelling of how the pandemic would have gone without lockdown and see that it was Hobson’s choice.

I’m sure essays will be set on it, though.

Interesting. Do you think our generation(s) share that view of WW1 or WW2?

Banging fucking saucepans

😂😂

OP, you've been overdosing on internet memes. Your post reads like a mashup of coronavirus complaint memes - nothing original there.

I don’t think so, but a lot will be learnt from different countries.

I do wonder about future border closure. Most accepted WHO guidance this time.

Although I do agree there will be a lot of discussion maybe around ethics for different age groups.

Yes, there definitely should have been more global communication - and western countries could have learnt so much from countries in Asia and in Africa who had had experience with SARS and MERS in successfully containing them, and who did immediately lock down and wear masks right from the outset - and who had far, far fewer cases and deaths.

I think you are right, and the cheese/coffee post will become a thing of legend.

It will certainly be a fascinating thing to look back upon, though as nearly all of our history is now only recorded electronically large swathes of it can be made tricky to find, or altered to suit the agenda. History really will be written by the victors.

On a human/personal level cognitive dissonance will kick in and everyone will believe they were in the right side.

My guess is this will take 20-30 years though I hope it is sooner.

Future generations will probably reflect on the speed of development and distribution of the vacccine and the benefits this may bring in dealing with the next pandemics.

I think we’ll move towards non HCP administration of vaccine

Eg nasal or patch or something which would really cut back logistics and increase efficiency

Hard disagree. Future generations will look back and see that we didn’t know how to respond so did the best we could. When I think about WW2 I don’t judge them for splitting up children from their families and rationing food, I think they did what needed to be done to keep people as safe and healthy as possible in difficult circumstances. When I think about the plague I think more about how little we knew about science then so I imagine future generations will look at this like that because science comes on in leaps and bounds.

So will they judge us harshly or laugh? Which is it?

@RickiTarr

“Future generations” will probably look at the modelling of how the pandemic would have gone without lockdown and see that it was Hobson’s choice.

I’m sure essays will be set on it, though.

The modelling was a complete joke so no