Future generations will judge us harshly

[MyGardenSanctuary]

In years to come, people will be horrified at how we handled this pandemic.
We've denied kids (from babies to teenagers) a decent education and proper social contact for 18 months, isolated the vulnerable and elderly out of fear, delayed cancer treatment, denied access to dentist, doctors, support groups, banned partners who didnt live together from seeing each other, banging fucking saucepans, washing shopping, quarantining post, banning grandparents from seeing and hugging their families, dodging people on pavements in case we killed them, abusing those without a mask....I could go on.

Future generations are going to laugh at how this was handled and how we just took it.

You're very opinionated and seem to be substituting rhetoric and sentiment for critical thinking skills.

I take it you're not an ICU HCP (who can't take much more, frankly) or even a cancer specialist as neither would agree with you even slightly, let alone take your word for it that you've got a crystal ball.

So will they judge us harshly or laugh? Which is it?

I think the OP's going for a sort of sardonic honking sound with a bit of tut tut for punctuation.

@MyGardenSanctuary

In years to come, people will be horrified at how we handled this pandemic. We've denied kids (from babies to teenagers) a decent education and proper social contact for 18 months, isolated the vulnerable and elderly out of fear, delayed cancer treatment, denied access to dentist, doctors, support groups, banned partners who didnt live together from seeing each other, banging fucking saucepans, washing shopping, quarantining post, banning grandparents from seeing and hugging their families, dodging people on pavements in case we killed them, abusing those without a mask....I could go on.

Future generations are going to laugh at how this was handled and how we just took it.

Ok so imagine we hadn’t locked down and let everyone catch it It wouldn’t have been a utopia!!!

The economy would have suffered from all the illness. As with Spanish Flu.

The NHS would have been so overwhelmed that there would have been LESS treatment for cancer and other illnesses. Staff ill. Hospitals well overfull. There is no room left to treat anything else. Anyone who’s had treatment delayed in flu season knows this and this would have been flu season on steroids.

Illnesses would have stretched businesses too. I could go on. There are so many ways that just letting everyone get ill to the point we break the nhs and all our infrastructure is a bad idea.

Future generations will judge the naysayers who stopped us locking down early enough to stamp it out quickly each time. That would have helped the economy, education and other illnesses immensely.

They’ll judge us breeding the alpha variant and letting in the delta. They’ll judge us giving up masks for no point but pandering to those who shout the loudest.

They’ll judge us for a lot but not the things you claim.

@PopcornMuncher

Some restrictions in care homes are inhumane. Awful stories are going to emerge of people not being able to see dying relatives

Awful too the fact that a significant chunk were dying because of the failure to "throw a ring of protection' around care homes.

Wildewoodz sums it up well.

@Iwantadoghedoesn't I am sorry to hear you are feeling like that. I am also in Perth and haven't seen my mum in a few years, likely won't see her for a few more. I miss her very much, but I am very glad to be here and not in the UK, as I know my folks have had an awful time of it, while our life has been pretty normal. Even if I was back there, my mum is very worried about restrictions being lifted as my stepdad is clinically vulnerable, so they will have to be very careful again about going out. I certainly don't feel like I am on prison island here, I think I have a lot more freedom than my friends and family in the UK and Ireland. I know it is hard, but I feel that the closed border is a price worth paying to save lives, and we are lucky to be here.

My family in SA (and New Zealand) feel exactly the same alwayscrashinginthesamecar.

it will be Interesting to see how much of a footnote this is in the future history books.

@GingerAndTheBiscuits

I don’t think we will. Collective amnesia will set in. We don’t judge the response to the 1918 pandemic do we? I think we’ll be too busy looking forward to look back.

This.

It's fascinating what society chooses to remember in great detail (WWI, WW2 - invariably with hugely rose tinted spectacles) and chooses to forget the finer points of (Spanish flu).

There's a great deal of effort that goes into Remembrance of the war dead, for largely political reasons, and none whatsoever of the Spanish flu victims.

Journalists, historians, academics and others who tend to set the narrative around these things disproportionately come from wealthier backgrounds. In decades to come I imagine that they will talk of the impact in terms of families spending more time together in their gardens and WFH - not the grinding poverty and debt other less privileged people have found themselves in.

Well said alwayscrashinginthesamecar1

There's a great deal of effort that goes into Remembrance of the war dead, for largely political reasons, and none whatsoever of the Spanish flu victims

There’s a huge difference between getting drafted and fighting in a horrific war due to elitist interests and just getting a disease, which was the experience of most people on earth until the advent of vaccines and antibiotics and such.

@Tealightsandd

Wildewoodz sums it up well.

I agree

@PopcornMuncher

Some restrictions in care homes are inhumane. Awful stories are going to emerge of people not being able to see dying relatives

You clearly haven’t been involved in a care home outbreak. The heart break when one positive case leads to losing 1/4 of your residents and actual healthy adult staff dying within a few weeks. That was why.

@Wildewoodz what they said, 100%

The percent of young people with long covid complications will probably think a bit more highly of the things people did to prevent others getting it

As
I said yesterday, it might be useful to know how many have it first, or even to have a widely agreed definition of what it is

Someone was quoting the Guardian (god help us) and shared the view that 10-20% / 33,000 children have it, so I dug out the official charts they'd selectively quoted from - and every single figure was based on estimated numbers of self reports

Give me a break ...

@Puzzledandpissedoff

The percent of young people with long covid complications will probably think a bit more highly of the things people did to prevent others getting it

As
I said yesterday, it might be useful to know how many have it first, or even to have a widely agreed definition of what it is

Someone was quoting the Guardian (god help us) and shared the view that 10-20% / 33,000 children have it, so I dug out the official charts they'd selectively quoted from - and every single figure was based on estimated numbers of self reports

Give me a break ...

Lol imagine if they pulled this crap with vaccine side effects 😂

This pandemic is going to be a minor blip in history. A footnote at best. It will be overshadowed by climate change and possibly antibiotic resistance , either or ( nightmare scenario) both of which will make Covid look like child's play

@bumblingbovine49

This pandemic is going to be a minor blip in history. A footnote at best. It will be overshadowed by climate change and possibly antibiotic resistance , either or ( nightmare scenario) both of which will make Covid look like child's play

Just like COVID, the government response to climate change will cause human misery and death.

I do not trust them at all anymore. Not because they are nefarious. But because they are incompetent and will never, ever admit they were wrong. They’d rather us suffer.

Really?!

There were flu pandemics in 1958 and 1968 that killed over a million people world wide at the time.

Today no one even remembers them or talks about them.

Well no op, because history is subjective.
Many dc with sen, mh issues etc have enjoyed not having to be in a stressful situation each day, my dd was one and she has thrived, I was able to help her.
It's also helped me because it means dh was at home more to help me with the dc.
And the glorious silver lining, again shared by many.. We have been saved from pils.

(someone's quoted the guardian, god help us) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Indeed, it's surely the most miserable tome.

@Toesies

Kept hundreds of thousands alive and healthy ....

History will also allow us to see how countries less fortunate than ourselves faired

Disagree- more likely to judge why the government was allowed to get away with lies, deceit and corruption during a global pandemic and why, despite everything the NHS have done, they continue to be underfunded.

@CrouchEndTiger12 My parents do. They caught that flu in 1968. They were both 32 at the time.