Women are just imagining problem periods after the vaccine

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It's a blog post by a doctor on the Zoe COVID study. She's basically saying that all women who've experienced changes and issues are imagining it. Or rather, it's real but it's not down to the vaccine

What do you think on reading it? I KNOW the vaccine delayed my period and then, when it came, it was really heavy. I know this wasn't down to a painkiller I may have taken or a spot of stress I had

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-vaccines-menstruation?mccid=0bcd25dee2&mcceid=b394a53244#part2

Then saying this annoys me too, as these vaccines work every differently. Should we expect similar effects? If we do get similar effects, is it via the same mechanism? I need to understand the mechanism to know if its reassuring to know other vaccines can mess with cycles.

@Hornbill123456789

There is evidence from both the flu and HPV vaccines that they can affect the menstrual cycle temporarily - but there are no long-term side effects. And there's "masses of evidence" they don't affect fertility, Dr Male said. While these changes shouldn't be of concern, Dr Male and others spoken to for this article emphasise the need for studies into the effect of the vaccine on periods, so that people know what to expect. "There's an issue here about how often women's health is ignored," she said. "Imagine if you didn't know that fever could be a vaccine side effect?" gynaecologist Dr Jen Gunter wrote on her site The Vajenda. "You might be concerned that something untoward was happening to your body, when all you were experiencing was a typical post-vaccine fever. That is exactly the same with menstrual irregularities."

Meant to quote this in my last post

The more they dismiss this the less I trust them

I came out after waiting my 15 minutes and had 2 big wooshes as I call them of blood loss one after the other. Then nothing, had to put a plastic bag on the car seat. My mum at 75 started spotting and had to have a full hysterescopy to check her out they found nothing.

@MouldyPotato

The more they dismiss this the less I trust them

Same. These side effects have been known for months now.

@Guiltypleasures001

I came out after waiting my 15 minutes and had 2 big wooshes as I call them of blood loss one after the other. Then nothing, had to put a plastic bag on the car seat. My mum at 75 started spotting and had to have a full hysterescopy to check her out they found nothing.

I don't see how a vaccine could cause increased menstrual bleeding 15 mins post injection though @Guiltypleasures001?

It takes longer than that for it to be absorbed in the lymph/blood from the muscle, let alone for your immune system to start mounting a response.

As in my PP, I totally agree it needs further investigation and taken seriously but right now it isn't clear if it's actually the vaccine causing changes.

My period is like clockwork, the only time it's shown up more than 12 hours late was when I was pregnant, but I had my first vaccination at the begging on June and that cycle I was 8 days late and it was comparatively quite light.

I'm not overjoyed at being gaslit about it, I know what my normal is and that wasn't it.

With the Zoe App though - there's no where to log menstrual irregularities. I've logged mine the past couple of days by saying I don't feel normal, then clicking through until I get to the text box for "other" where I say that my period is late. And I'm only doing that because I've been reading this week about delayed periods post-vaccine.

I don't think most women whose periods have been weird would do that because it's not the same as e.g. having a headache, which would be an obvious thing to report.

@jerometheturnipking exactly that! I'd already got over the other side effects by the time my period was late, and clicking on 'i'm not feeling quite right' only brought up covid symptom type things so I kept saying I was fine as it didn't look like there was anywhere to mention my messed up periods. So the whole article felt invalid from the point at which they said hardly anyone logged issues with their period... because it didn't seem like it was an option to do that!

Definitely affected mine, 15 days of very heavy bleeding (never had anything like this) followed by spotting until my next period. Settled after my second dose. Fully investigated as I am a HCP and had my vaccine earlier than most and there were no accounts of this at the time. Very annoyed at being dismissed as in my imagination.

Women’s medical concerns dismissed, what a fucking suprise.

I’m regular as clockwork. After my first AZ jab, I was due on 6 days later. Mine was MIA for 10 weeks. All the symptoms but absolutely no spotting/bleed at all. I had my second AZ jab last Saturday and due next week. Have absolutely no symptoms or signs that I usually get in the run up which is unusual too

I do totally believe anyone who says they have issues after a vaccine, but can't help being reminded of that old idea that women "sync up" periods when they live in close proximity. I always believed it and I still come across women who mention it as a fact. But countless studies now have said it isn't true. I'm not saying this is the same , that we are all kidding ourselves, just that periods are sometimes a bit bizarre, especially when anxious (for me) and maybe some, or a fair few, of the issues reported are just another example of these menstrual myths.

Heres a link about the syncing periods btw, plenty of others available, this is just first one I found.
modernfertility.com/blog/cycles/

Since I had the vax my period had been a hell of a lot shorter (2 days start to finish rather than 5 days bleeding and a few spotting) and cramps are unreal. I log it all on an app so I can see the change.

Also I can’t help but feel if a proportion of men had reported erectile disfunction after a jag they would be all sorts of investigations. Cause that affects life don’t cha know.

Silly women. Thinking they know their own bodies.

Really interested to read this.

No periods for two years after chemo induced menopause at 49. Last week had a 7 day period. GP has referred me to gynaecology clinic. Although, that is initially a nurse phone call on Monday. Not sure what they can tell from a phone call?! Everything is a faff nowadays.

I had the AZ vaccine.

I have an IUD and for the past few years i’ve had a light, irregular period roughly every couple of months. Had COVID in mid-2020 and started having heavier regular ones. Had the 1st AZ vaccine in early 2021 and they became irregular again, but stayed heavy-ish. Had my second AZ yesterday and I have tender boobs, cramps, and PMS-style hanger for chocolate. Arrogantly I persist in believing it’s not a coincidence

[quote LibertyRose]I do totally believe anyone who says they have issues after a vaccine, but can't help being reminded of that old idea that women "sync up" periods when they live in close proximity. I always believed it and I still come across women who mention it as a fact. But countless studies now have said it isn't true. I'm not saying this is the same , that we are all kidding ourselves, just that periods are sometimes a bit bizarre, especially when anxious (for me) and maybe some, or a fair few, of the issues reported are just another example of these menstrual myths.

Heres a link about the syncing periods btw, plenty of others available, this is just first one I found.
modernfertility.com/blog/cycles/[/quote]
What reminded you of this? I've heard of periods syncing but don't see the connection between it and abnormal menstrual cycles after being vaccinated. Women who don't live with other women/girls, post-menopausal women who hadn't had a bleed in years, women on hormonal contraception which their body is well adjusted to, women living with other women/girls who they should already be synced with...it doesn't explain the experience of thousands of women. The common factor is covid-19 vaccinations.

@BringBackThinEyebrows Mainly the idea that we CAN sometimes be wrong about causation of issues with our menstrual cycle - even if we don't feel we are right now.
But thousands of women do get bizarre and unprecedented period issues every month. If we are vaccinating so many women, some of them may have sudden issues which are independent of the vaccine - by pure chance , like the untrue syncing up idea.
I think this is born out by some of the posts above , people saying they had immediate response just minutes after the jab etc, which makes little sense.
Anyway, if these women who had issues by chance, unrelated to the vaccine , make up the majority of the women so far studied , it'd explain why this woman thinks it's likely theyre all chance .
Even if they're not.
We need to keep on reporting symptoms and keep an open mind.

@LibertyRose your article and point is completely irrelevant. My period can't possibly sync with Jane in Glasgow or Sarah in Yorkshire

Pfizer - period early, lighter but significantly more unpleasant than us usual - dizziness, pain, nausea when I am normally just a bit crampy on day 1.

@PenelopeP1tstop am not saying that Jane and Sarah's period are syncing.
For what it's worth I believe my own period was affected by the vaccine. I believe many people's might have been .
But I also believe that many people will simply have had unprecedented issues with their periods soon after tha vaccine and been wrong that the vaccine caused it. If it was mainly these women who were studied ,then it'd help explain what may be poor conclusions from that doctor .
The article is relevant because seperately , many women "know" that their period has synced with women they have lived with. But scientifically, it turns out not the be true. I believed this "fact" for a long time because it seemed to be true. It's a completely seperate matter . But we need to keep in mind that maybe not all the effects that we just "know" are because of the vaccine, may not all be. We can be wrong about our own bodies.

Pfizer end of May- was just about to start my period when i had it. That one was normal. Then started again two weeks later; heavier than ovulation spotting but lighter than a period and lasted a week. I'm due on my period at the moment and i'm about 4 days late. Definitely not pregnant. Normally very regular and have slight spotting for a day or two before, but nothing so far.

@LibertyRose Thanks for clarifying. I misunderstood your point and thought you meant so many women could be reporting abnormal experiences with their menstrual cycles because they are syncing.

I meant to add that I had read on here about the vaccine causing squiffy periods and I believed it was probably coincidental. But since it's happened to me, with no other stress/illness factors I have reported it on the Yellow Card site. It does seem to be fairly common.