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Namechanged4thi5 · 23/06/2021 15:27

Go about you normal day to day …go to work/public transport/ eat out/children in school/supermarket visit etc with the required precautions taken have you managed not to get COVID so far?
A genuine question to understand how this compares with the highly transmissible delta variance…
I’m 40- not yet vaccinated and go into work only 1 day now…but I don’t go anywhere else so might not be giving a realistic picture…

Note: this is not a name calling, or shouting at people for not being vaccinated thread. Please don’t turn this into one….

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FromEden · 24/06/2021 20:46

Not vaccinated. For over a year I've been eating in restaurants, socialising, going to casinos, had a child in in person schooling for the entire year, been on holiday, stopped wearing a mask, attended a sporting event with 20k (unmasked) people, husband plays golf and usually hits the bar after weekly, child had a few playdates and birthday parties, and none of us have gotten sick. This is in the US where the odds of infection would be much higher and somehow we dodged it.

I do have type O Blood which is interesting but think we may have already had it in December 2019. Waiting on the results of a t cell test to find out.

FromEden · 24/06/2021 20:50

Oh and I didn't flout any rules to do any of that, except maybe not wear a mask which is advice and not a law.

FromEden · 24/06/2021 20:51

And only stopped wearing a mask when it was allowed within the past couple of months!

shewalkslikerihanna · 24/06/2021 22:26

I must admit when I saw the word casinos..I did think it couldn’t be in the uk.
They really ramped up the fear factor in the uk
The only way you could avoid it was to switch off your tv and not watch the news, the ridiculous adverts or listen to the radio
All of Which we did, which is why I think we’ve managed to pretty much come through this unscathed.

Also took no notice of graphs, figures, daily deaths cases etc

We just went out and about . Used our own eyes and common sense .
Anyone who wanted to visit was welcome

Since when was locking up the healthy a good move.

The only thing, I won’t even call it research..was looking at our town obituaries and you were hard pushed to find anyone under the age of 70 in the columns

There were mainly deaths of 80 to 100, which for a town that has a lot of low income families I thought was pretty good going.
At one point they were trying to make out we were a hot spot, which was absolute poppy cock.
I still only know a handful of people who have definitely had it .

MedSchoolRat · 24/06/2021 22:42

ZednotZee Thu 24-Jun-21 19:44:56 gave links below

This is your gold article, excellent journal, AIM, large sample size.
www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/M20-4511. They note that they couldn't adjust the risk ratios by ethnicity (not known) and also conclude it's hard info to use meaningfully, the observed association may not be consistent or might be due to an unobserved confounder (not simply blood type). They say In conclusion, type O blood may be associated with a lower risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 illness or death. At most, a small proportion of SARS-CoV-2 infection or related illness in the entire population could be prevented by some undetermined property conferred by O blood type and, perhaps, further enhanced by Rh− status. Whether this information can influence COVID-19 prevention or treatment strategies remains to be determined.

Peer-reviewed but kind of small, not sure if adequately powered, supports conclusion of AIM article. link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00277-020-04169-1

This is a preprint, it's not peer-reviewed. Has ethnicity as covariate, not sure it's adequately powered --probably yes. Looks likely to get into peer-review eventually, supports AIM findings.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276013/

The next 2 studies are talking theory about why a ketogenic diet may be beneficial wrt covid. I couldn't find anything in them about blood types. They are Waffle Not research evidence.

www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/3/1004

translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12967-020-02600-9

ZednotZee · 24/06/2021 22:53

@MedSchoolRat

Excuse me? My 'Gold article'?

You asked for links, I provided them. They support the points that I made earlier in the thread.

They sayIn conclusion, type O bloodmaybe associated with a lower risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 illness or death. At most, a small proportion of SARS-CoV-2 infection or related illness in the entire population could be prevented by some undetermined property conferred by O blood type and, perhaps, further enhanced by Rh− status. Whether this information can influence COVID-19 prevention or treatment strategies remains to be determined.

I didn't purport a ketogenic diet to be a covariate of the blood type hypothesis of covid susceptibility. Unsure why you thought that I did.

23andbroke · 24/06/2021 22:55

I’m early 20s (was earlier 20s when the pandemic began!)

Have managed to completely avoid COVID, although I worked throughout it at peak and also lived in a student house at one point (my friends weren’t strict so could have infected the rest of us)

With the recent variants, again have still managed to avoid it although many more people are vaccinated now which presumably reduces spread

ZednotZee · 24/06/2021 23:04

In any instance covid does not appear to be an indiscriminate virus.

As such it does not support an indiscriminate or indeed a mandatory vaccine programme.

im2sad · 24/06/2021 23:47

Just had a quick flick through some articles and some are reporting significant differences in the susceptibility of covid for A and O blood groups.

Quite interesting, myself and DH are O.

crappytimes · 25/06/2021 00:17

@loulouljh

Not vaccinated. Carry on a normal life and don't give it a second thought!!!
Ditto!
XenoBitch · 25/06/2021 00:27

Not vaccinated, no plan to. I carry on as normal (if that is even a thing anymore).

Namechanged4thi5 · 25/06/2021 08:18

I do wonder when I’m back in the office with more staff unmasked? from July is when I’ll catch it..atleast that’s what I’m being bombarded with by my family who are keen for me to have it….it’s become like a weight I carry around with me now…

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prodilp1 · 25/06/2021 10:35

Finally a thread full of common sense.

Whyevencare · 25/06/2021 10:42

@Namechanged4thi5

I do wonder when I’m back in the office with more staff unmasked? from July is when I’ll catch it..atleast that’s what I’m being bombarded with by my family who are keen for me to have it….it’s become like a weight I carry around with me now…
I've been back in the office since August last year, around 15-20 staff and no masks.

There's been no covid here Smile

Namechanged4thi5 · 25/06/2021 10:44

@Whyevencare that is reassuring to hear- thank you

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jsp5642 · 25/06/2021 11:51

Hi Namechanged4thi5,

I understand your being nervous about catching the bug. Unfortunately, I don't think the antibody test is much use for showing if you already had covid. I have long covid last year, with breathing problems for 8 months. I have had three antibody tests as part of a research trial and all of them were negative. So I think that having an antibody test to get some reassurance would probably not be that useful.

I hope you find a way through it and I think you're very sensible to ask these honest questions. Take care and good luck. x

PuzzledObserver · 25/06/2021 16:35

@MistressoftheDarkSide assuming you’re not CV or CEV, the reason you haven’t been invited is probably that once they got past the top priority groups they mostly stopped issuing individual invitations. They just publicised when the booking site was opened up to different ages.

You have been eligible for months, and if you want the jab, go on the NHS site and book one. But if you don’t want it, as you were.

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