Would you isolate as a contact and miss your holiday?

[Lemons1571]

If you’re double vaxxed, have a uk holiday booked, and T&T call you up as a contact the day before you are due to leave?

It hasn’t happened to me, just wondering if we all need to keep our heads down for 10 days before we leave for our hols in august.

I suspect I’ll get a lot of yes’s. But in the real world, do you think many people would actually miss their holiday on the basis of a possible contact (or even a randomer!) testing positive?

Or maybe these isolation rules for fully vaxxed won’t even exist by august!

What kind of entitled prick wouldn’t isolate? T&T is a legal requirement. It would take some gaul and idiocy to not do so. Honestly some of the replies on here are beyond infuriating.

@Lemons1571

I dont have the app, so any request to isolate would only be via direct contact from T&T. No potential school isolation to worry about as holiday is in august.

Chances of running into trouble low then. But yeah if we go abroad in august we’d be keeping our heads down in the 10 days before.

No, don't have the app anyway.

Amazing how council vans are turning up checking on people, shame they didn't stop everyone coming back from India and that none of them were expected to isolate. Why was this again?

Why also are all the big events continuing, oh yes, they are included in the special 'test event status'. This government are taking the piss, i can't believe people would stop their holiday at this stage if they are double vaccinated.

[quote Lemons1571]@strangeshapedpotato it’s a uk holiday from the uk. So no flying or travel insurance.[/quote]
You can get travel insurance for UK trips.

Have to admit, I wouldn't normally, but this year it seems like a no-brainer.

If it would be my dc school informing about isolation I could easily not open the notice and be ignorant. Myself I am staying at home so only thread would be dh's work.

I got emailed , texted and called by track and trace a few weeks ago/ there was no way I could have missed them

Not a bloody chance

Do you have travel insurance with your bank account? If so you're probably covered if your trip is > = 2 nights

I think you'd be committing an offence if you didn't comply with a direct request from Test and Trace.

On the other hand, isolation requests issued by the app are not enforceable by law.

Nope but I probably wouldn’t answer the phone in the run up. I would be careful when away and socially distance and would probably do daily LFT tests.

Now I’m double vaccinated I’m thinking of uninstalling the app. I will sign in somewhere if I’m made to but as the government look like they are going to lift the requirement to isolate for the vaccinated I don’t see the point.

Nope. No way. I feel sad for anyone that would actually do that.

@danni0509

Only thing is the local council send people to your house!

I’ve had 2 around today for Dh. They are coming back again one more unannounced time to ‘check’ he’s isolating.

I wouldn't answer the door to them regardless of whether I was there or not.

I'm planning a UK break and as part of that DH and I have agreed we'd avoid hospitality etc. beforehand (even though we've only been doing outdoor anyway) in the period prior for just this reason.

Of course it's not guaranteed that we won't be exposed, but we reasoned that as we've both had both vaccine doses it'd be a damn shame to miss a week away for the sake of a couple of pints in a beer garden. If the required for vaccinated people to isolate was removed, I'd probably think different (although with rates locally, I'm still not keen on indoor dining).

So can they force their way into your house? Surely not without a warrant, right?
What happens if you don't open the door? Or if you do and say the person in self isolation is asleep and you don't want to wake them up?

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

Of course. It’s a legal requirement. Vaccines don’t stop people getting it or spreading it.

You’d think the system would be clever enough to put a hold on passports, driving licences etc to assist in ensuring the isolation took place.

Put a hold on driving licences?? Passports??? Do you like having civil rights?

@Frezia

So can they force their way into your house? Surely not without a warrant, right? What happens if you don't open the door? Or if you do and say the person in self isolation is asleep and you don't want to wake them up?

My dsd was in the shower. I had to get her out so they could see her.

I’d still go

Great point OP. I've just deleted the app.

Well a Scottish football player has tested positive and none of his team mates who played 90 minutes of football with him, share the same dressing room and same hotel and trained together have to isolate! Different rules for celebrities and sports people than to job public or school children!

Odd that 2 England players who are negative are sacrificed to isolation and don't share the same hotel or dressing room or training area ....

Something fishy going on here

@Lemons1571

Don't bother to isolate. Scottish football team don't need to

"England duo Mason Mount and Ben Chilwell have been ordered into self-isolation after contact with Billy Gilmour at the recent England-Scotland Euro 2020 game – but fans are asking why Gilmour's Scottish teammates are off the hook.
Chelsea pair Mount and Chilwell must observe a period of isolation after it was determined that they had come into close contact with Blues teammate Gilmour, who gave a star-making performance during Scotland's 0-0 draw at Wembley in the Group D encounter.

It was confirmed early on Monday that Gilmour, 20, had tested positive for Covid-19 and now must undergo 10 days of isolation at Scotland's training base in the north-east of England, missing his country's crunch encounter with Croatia on Tuesday.

Despite the entire England squad returning negative tests on Monday, the decision was made in the Three Lions camp to keep both Mount and Chilwell away from the rest of the squad, presumably pending the findings of further tests. Their participation in England's final group game against the Czech Republic remains in doubt as a result. "

I'd be switching my blue tooth off

Just don't have the app in the weeks leading up to the holiday

@takemetocedarpoint

Yes I would isolate. Utterly gobsmacked that some PPs have said they wouldn’t. It’s attitudes like that that’ll keep us in this mess for longer.

Having said all that I’d say it’s fairly likely that, as a double jabbed person, you would not have to isolate anyway in the future.

Think about it though. When would this end? It will go on forever. Less testing, less compliance....that is the way to go.

It's a legal requirement, so yes. Even if it wasn't, it's about doing the right thing at the moment. Luckily he can work from home and get food deliveries, but we've got a friend staying in now, as he desperately wants to go away in 12 days time