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Why are children suddenly more susceptible?

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WineGetsMeThroughIt · 20/06/2021 22:32

I've been hearing a lot lately about how now with so many vaccinated more and more children are being seen in the ER and getting reactions to Covid. But why? Is it the Delta variant? Are they just testing more? Previously the govt would report children aren't really impacted by covid hence they don't need to wear masks etc, but now as it seems infections and serious side effects / deaths are being cut in the adult vax'd population all of a sudden children have been made as more prominent carriers and sufferers of covid. But why? Is this just media saying so? Is the delta variant worse for kids? Why is it that now they seem to care more about the infections with children than before??

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Mischance · 20/06/2021 22:35

The virus mutates; that is why.

WineGetsMeThroughIt · 20/06/2021 22:36

@Mischance

The virus mutates; that is why.

So delta I guess then? Fingers crossed it doesn't get worse for kids. They've had it hard enough with all this

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Hothammock · 20/06/2021 22:38

We are routinely testing children now but we didn't before so no one realised so many were carrying it.

Pinchoftums · 20/06/2021 22:38

My DDs best friend was in hospital last April with "pneumonia" she had every symptom of covid but no test meant it was not reported. She was very ill and only got back to school in November. Under reporting was huge

VariantL1130 · 20/06/2021 22:40

The virus binds to the ACE2 receptors in the lungs. Children don't have many of those for it to bind to, but with Delta it's thought to have become more efficient at that binding process, and therefore able to infect more.

WineGetsMeThroughIt · 20/06/2021 22:47

@VariantL1130

The virus binds to the ACE2 receptors in the lungs. Children don't have many of those for it to bind to, but with Delta it's thought to have become more efficient at that binding process, and therefore able to infect more.

Oh I did not know this. That's very interesting. Thanks

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titchy · 20/06/2021 22:47

There's no increase in children being hospitalised at all - where do you get that idea from? It's been consistent and pretty low throughout.

Roonerspismed · 20/06/2021 22:49

I think it’s an agenda the government wants to push. Herd immunity can only be achieved through vaccinating children; the vaccines will cause a small number of deaths in children and so they want people to accept that using fear, akin to the AZ vaccine clotting issue.

ZednotZee · 20/06/2021 22:52

Well I presume the vaccine is going to be mandatory for everybody within the next year, if not before.
The narrative needs to change so that parents are more worried regarding the effects of covid upon their DC than that of the vaccine for this to be voted through Parliament successfully.

Ozanj · 20/06/2021 22:53

There is no increase in children being hospitalized or in ICU at all. The government is deliberately misrepresenting statistics to bring in child vaccinations.

titchy · 20/06/2021 22:55

@Roonerspismed

I think it’s an agenda the government wants to push. Herd immunity can only be achieved through vaccinating children; the vaccines will cause a small number of deaths in children and so they want people to accept that using fear, akin to the AZ vaccine clotting issue.
Not quite true. Herd immunity is achieved once enough of the population has antibodies - those can be gained via vaccination, or catching the virus. Enough children are likely to have already had the virus to mean that we don't need them vaccinated to achieve herd immunity.

That doesn't mean it won't still circulate. There'll be pockets of outbreaks forever, particularly once the borders are opened back up fully - which is why it's vital to get the rest of the world vaccinated. But it'll be manageable. At least in the Western world.

titchy · 20/06/2021 22:56

@Ozanj

There is no increase in children being hospitalized or in ICU at all. The government is deliberately misrepresenting statistics to bring in child vaccinations.
But JCVI have recommended children don't get vaxxed Confused
Pinchoftums · 20/06/2021 22:59

I doubt vaccines will ever be mandatory, however they are likely to be necessary if you want to do some things like travel or go to matches.

Dustyboots · 20/06/2021 23:00

Children are not suddenly more susceptible.

ZednotZee · 20/06/2021 23:04

@Pinchoftums

If they get it through parliament for carers and nurses within nursing homes then I do believe the writing is on the wall.

I hope I'm wrong but Hancock stated in April that it wouldn't be mandatory for nursing home staff and has roundly backtracked. If he gets away with doing so this time then there's nothing stopping him justifying anything and everything else.

This government have the art of boiling proverbial frogs down to a T.

toocold54 · 20/06/2021 23:11

I know a lot of children can be seriously ill quite long after they’ve had it it’s called inflammatory syndrome or something even if they were asymptomatic. So I wonder if it’s only showing now.
I know children have always been a bit of a concern but I think the older generation was ‘more of a concern’.

Dustyboots · 20/06/2021 23:17

I know children have always been a bit of a concern

But they haven't at all - maybe a concern for their parents of course - but scientists have always said that children were the least susceptible to and at risk of complications from the virus.

At the moment children will be the ones getting it and spreading it more because they haven't been vaccinated. But they're still not susceptible to serious illness - no more than anyone else is. In fact less still.

herecomesthsun · 20/06/2021 23:21

@titchy JCVI have delayed their decision about child vaccinations

AmyVindaloo · 20/06/2021 23:25

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UmbilicusProfundus · 20/06/2021 23:29

Of course the vaccine won’t be mandatory for everyone. They can increase pressure, and make it harder to live a full life being unvaccinated, but it’s never going to be mandatory.

DumplingsAndStew · 20/06/2021 23:36

So many conspiracy loons here.

Go on then, what reason do the Government have to desperately want children vaccinated for no benefit?

Staffy1 · 20/06/2021 23:44

Why is it that now they seem to care more about the infections with children than before

They don't care enough to vaccinate children as the last I read, just last week, was that the government has decided not to offer the vaccine to children.

Staffy1 · 20/06/2021 23:49

@Roonerspismed

I think it’s an agenda the government wants to push. Herd immunity can only be achieved through vaccinating children; the vaccines will cause a small number of deaths in children and so they want people to accept that using fear, akin to the AZ vaccine clotting issue.
They have said they are not going to be offering it to children any time soon as children in general are less badly affected by covid and they feel more information is needed on vaccine complications for children.
ZednotZee · 20/06/2021 23:51

I don't consider it be about the vaccine per se.
If the Government can mandate an invasive, medical procedure en masse then it sets a precedent.

They can pretty much do as they please from that point.

I hope more than anything else on Earth that in time I will be proven to be a wholly misguided conspiracy nutcase.
In fact I'll be nothing less than ecstatic at such an outcome.

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