All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!

[SweetsMum3]

We need to learn to live with covid like we do with all other viruses, illnesses and diseases. The elderly and high risk are vaccinated… that was the goal, remember?! Like Hancock said, we will cry freedom when the over 70s are vaccinated!

There is no reason for mass testing when the young and healthy get covid mildly. My child is in tears yet again because she isn’t allowed to go to school for 10 days. A few students in her year group tested positive and all students are forced to be locked in their homes… again.

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

This isn’t fair. This isn’t healthy. This isn’t sane. This is harmful and destructive to children. An entire generation has been betrayed. For what exactly? Over a virus which does not affect them. Over fear. Over people being immensely risk-averse. Over loss of control and people can’t take it.

It is time we live our lives and get back to normal before it’s too late. If our children hold us accountable and never forgive us, I will completely understand. We have not stood-up for them. Instead, we cowered in fear not giving a hoot about the collateral damage all these restrictions have caused. Shame on us.

If we close the borders how many foreign born NHS staff will be able or willing to put up with not seeing their relatives for an extended length of time.. This one is for you @Tealightsandd

'It really, really isn't'

I mean from a 'lockdown' point of view. Everywhere is open, schools , shops, leisure and hospitality. Live is pretty much normal from a dc point of view, if they have to isolate they get live lessons/remote learning. They can play out, see their friends and have fun. Some of you must stop telling them they're victims and have been failed or they'll grow up to be negative without any resilience too.

@JaniieJones

'It really, really isn't'

I mean from a 'lockdown' point of view. Everywhere is open, schools , shops, leisure and hospitality. Live is pretty much normal from a dc point of view, if they have to isolate they get live lessons/remote learning. They can play out, see their friends and have fun. Some of you must stop telling them they're victims and have been failed or they'll grow up to be negative without any resilience too.

Honestly this last line.

Give it a rest. No matter how many times you repeat it doesn’t make it true.

You’re in your own head with it.

@MercyBooth

Dc are obese because parents feed them crap not because sportsday was cancelled and parks were shut. Obesity was a huge problem well before covid

I see the left wing mask has slipped. You see a lot of this on here. People who pretend they care about poorer peoples health and saying they want lives saved from Covid. But the thing is they are not bothered about poorer people the ppl who deliver them things during lockdown catching Covid They are only bothered about them spreading it.

Obesity is linked to poverty. And even less will be able to afford feeding their kids healthier food now. But hey you can just keep shitting on those you see as serfs so all good

True. Some are pretty obvious

'But the thing is they are not bothered about poorer people the ppl who deliver them things during lockdown catching Covid They are only bothered about them spreading it.'

No one delivered things? I did my own shopping thanks

'Obesity is linked to poverty. And even less will be able to afford feeding their kids healthier food now'

Obesity is also linked to eating too much. You suggested dc were obese because parks were shut and sportsday was cancelled.

I am not in the least bit privileged , what can't we do that you want to be able to do and that you have to be privileged to do ?

Anybody ?

@JaniieJones when children isolate they are not allowed out at all if you have 3 children they are all isolating at different times, you can’t get the other children to school. You obviously have no idea and don’t have children.

@frumpety

I am not in the least bit privileged , what can't we do that you want to be able to do and that you have to be privileged to do ?

Anybody ?

Not using state sector would help keep more for dc, second home visits. Paying more for holidays and tests

Is that what you mean? Not followed these posts

[quote frumpety]@TheVampiresWife I am not in the least bit privileged , what can't we do that you want to be able to do and that you have to be privileged to do ?[/quote]
Get an appointment with my consultant to have my meds reviewed because I'm in constant pain from an autoimmune condition. If I had the money to go private, it wouldn't be an issue.

Plus isolation is worse if you have no garden, your dc can’t go outside

Even in lockdown exercise was important

@JaniieJones

'It really, really isn't'

I mean from a 'lockdown' point of view. Everywhere is open, schools , shops, leisure and hospitality. Live is pretty much normal from a dc point of view, if they have to isolate they get live lessons/remote learning. They can play out, see their friends and have fun. Some of you must stop telling them they're victims and have been failed or they'll grow up to be negative without any resilience too.

Everywhere isn't open. Thousands of cultural venues, for example, can't open at half capacity. Many music venues/theatres, and all nightclubs, cannot open at all. All the people who rely on them for their livelihoods have had no income for well over a year.

From DC pov, if they have a parent who cannot access medical care for, say, chronic illness, or if they're out of work because of restrictions, life probably isn't that normal, no. And not all children have access to the internet at home, so remote learning isn't much good to them.

Being absolutely ground down by the constant relentless shit of the last 15 months doesn't make you lacking in resilience. It makes you pretty normal, imo. What a bizarre thing to say.

Have you spoken to your consultants secretary @TheVampiresWife ? It is rubbish that you can't even have a phone consultation with them, is the secretary aware of your worsening condition ?

@MarshaBradyo yes I understand that for people with no garden or access to the internet 10 days isolation is going to be pretty grim, we have a garden, did DD go in it once during her 10 days, did she chuff , she made a nest in her room and demanded regular snacks I was tempted to join her

@MarshaBradyo

Plus isolation is worse if you have no garden, your dc can’t go outside

Even in lockdown exercise was important

This.

@frumpety

Have you spoken to your consultants secretary *@TheVampiresWife* ? It is rubbish that you can't even have a phone consultation with them, is the secretary aware of your worsening condition ?

@MarshaBradyo yes I understand that for people with no garden or access to the internet 10 days isolation is going to be pretty grim, we have a garden, did DD go in it once during her 10 days, did she chuff , she made a nest in her room and demanded regular snacks I was tempted to join her

How old is she?

Might be a different story for a 5 year old.

NO @JaniieJones 1 didnt.

SCHOOLS TO WEIGH PUPILS OVER FEARS OF OBESITY SPIKE

CHECKS BROUGHT BACK IN PRIMARIES TO REVEAL IMPACT OF LOCKDOWN

the Independent.

twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1406725441356976128?s=20

Late teens, although she liked a snack and a nest at 5 yrs old too, maybe just a DD thing

I dont have kids but i TOTALLY get it.

life is pretty much normal

No it bloody isn’t. And if you had children in a state school you would bloody know that. You’ve ignored the q several times, so I assume you don’t? I’m sure your life is perfectly comfortable and fine.

@Tealightsandd covid isn’t a dangerous disease for children- for young children it is less dangerous that the flu. All studies on long covid which have used a control group have found it to be very rare/ negligible- though of course post viral complications/ fatigue is a well known but rare risk with any virus. Older and vulnerable people have now been vaccinated. Children have suffered so much during this pandemic, it’s time to start giving equal priority to their needs.

@frumpety

Late teens, although she liked a snack and a nest at 5 yrs old too, maybe just a DD thing

Late teens totally different ball game to young dc in a flat especially in the heat (as it was when we started)

I know you’re joking around here but some really do not think about the impact of isolation on others.

Ha ! Ddog used to join her when he was alive, I would find them wrapped up in a duvet sharing a packet of biscuits

@frumpety

Have you spoken to your consultants secretary *@TheVampiresWife* ? It is rubbish that you can't even have a phone consultation with them, is the secretary aware of your worsening condition ?

@MarshaBradyo yes I understand that for people with no garden or access to the internet 10 days isolation is going to be pretty grim, we have a garden, did DD go in it once during her 10 days, did she chuff , she made a nest in her room and demanded regular snacks I was tempted to join her

I've posted about this already on this thread.

I've called several times. My rheumatology nurse cannot take my notes to my consultant's office in person Because Covid. Instead she has to email my consultant despite her office being a few steps along a corridor from her own. There is a massive backlog of cases/emails. My nurse and my consultant both agree that the rules are absolutely ludicrous.

I came off my meds early last year and had an appointment in April 2020 to discuss new ones - obviously that was cancelled, and I've had several phone appointments postponed since.

I'm in so much pain I cannot walk. I've also started having other, new symptoms I'm concerned about. I've no idea when I'll be able to get help.

@frumpety

Ha ! Ddog used to join her when he was alive, I would find them wrapped up in a duvet sharing a packet of biscuits

Who’s this to? Why is the dog relevant?

I know you’re joking around here but some really do not think about the impact of isolation on others

I do though, I tend to see the other end of the age range, people who are in their 80's/90's who haven't been able to see hardly anyone at all, don't have family living with them, haven't been able to access the social groups that they rely on, don't have the confidence to access the interent ( although some are better than me ! ) Some have deteriorated considerably over the last year or so and don't have their whole lives ahead of them to catch up. But a pandemic isn't a competition in pity is it ?

Who’s this to? Why is the dog relevant?

Sorry @MarshaBradyo I completely misread your post, I thought you got the need for a nest and snacks and I was off down memory lane. Ddog is very much missed so still relevant to us.

I am not in the least bit privileged , what can't we do that you want to be able to do and that you have to be privileged to do ?

Anybody ?

I'd like to fly to another country to watch
a game of football without having to bother about quarantine. Or even have a fortnight in the sun but I can't because I can't take the risk that the country will go to.amber or red while I'm away and I'd be left scraping around for price hiked flights that I can't.afford but I also can't afford 10 days off work to self isolate.

In short I'd like to be one of the elite that the rules don't apply to