DFE tells schools prepare for the worst.

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www.tes.com/news/covid-schools-told-plan-more-remote-learning

Feeling so cross why allow schools to stop masks on may 17th.
When Hancock knew the delta varient was present in April 2021.

School outbreaks my councils 46 this week and a fair few in neighbouring county with some schools fully shut.
Lots senior transition days and inter sports tournament cancelled.

We know from Kent alpha varient took a few months get really bad.
Some say 6 week break act as firebreak.
I am bot so sure as people will travel and mingle and in some cases School maybe mirror community transmission which is on the rise.

I wish having would go for starters.
They said they making education a priority back in march.
This term has been rubbish for many.
I have no faith that autumn term be any different.

No mitigation measures on ventilation
No masks or compulsory testing.
No smaller class sizes.
No vaccines for under 18s.

AliceLivesHere

There must be a better way

There is but you and others keep calling those that suggest them names, instead of engaging in a proper discourse.

And if those that say schools must be kept open at any cost really meant it, the money would be found.

**The biggest prospective study suggests 1.8% aged 5-17 get long covid (lasting 8 weeks or more).

That would amount to many tens of thousands of children in the UK (over 10 1/2 million children in this age group).

The government have set up a plan to open 15 centres to treat long covid in children at a cost of many millions.

Presumably you are thinking that if it doesn't affect your family directly, it should be ignored**

Don’t be ridiculous!! When did I say it stupid be ignored?! I said, if they’re that concerned then they should vaccinate them.

Still, that would mean over 98% aren’t affected so should they have to suffer MH issuers due to more lockdowns, homeschooling?

What about the vulnerable children that get abused at home, so are far safer at school? Aren’t you bothered about the consequences and affects of those children? ‘Because it doesn’t affect you directly’?

The clue is in the term Ed

@MarshaBradyo

Here with those stats why do you think JCVI have said Covid is such low risk to children the tiny risk associated with vaccination outweighs it?

Exactly!

More than 98% of them will not be affected but who cares about the consequences for the majority….

@MarshaBradyo

Here with those stats why do you think JCVI have said Covid is such low risk to children the tiny risk associated with vaccination outweighs it?

You appear to be pre-empting their announcement.

For what age Noble

Over 12? Have you not heard that statement at all then about comparative risk?

I’m fine either way. Do it and get on with it at least it will stop the pro isolation situation.

And it still stands that either way JCVI did announce Covid as low risk so an assessment has to be made.

All those saying no they are high risk are running against this statement.

I'm saying that their announcement has not been made yet and I'd be very surprised if they were as clear cut as that.

@noblegiraffe

I'm saying that their announcement has not been made yet and I'd be very surprised if they were as clear cut as that.

What’s it based on if not assessment of comparative risk?

@TableFlowerss

**The biggest prospective study suggests 1.8% aged 5-17 get long covid (lasting 8 weeks or more).

That would amount to many tens of thousands of children in the UK (over 10 1/2 million children in this age group).

The government have set up a plan to open 15 centres to treat long covid in children at a cost of many millions.

Presumably you are thinking that if it doesn't affect your family directly, it should be ignored**

Don’t be ridiculous!! When did I say it stupid be ignored?! I said, if they’re that concerned then they should vaccinate them.

Still, that would mean over 98% aren’t affected so should they have to suffer MH issuers due to more lockdowns, homeschooling?

What about the vulnerable children that get abused at home, so are far safer at school? Aren’t you bothered about the consequences and affects of those children? ‘Because it doesn’t affect you directly’?

The clue is in the term Ed

Yes exactly, if you think your kids are in the 98% then the attitude is, why should they have to etc etc.

I didn't say that any children should have more homeschooling.

I think we should be offered vaccinations especially for more vulnerable children & families, as a choice,

I also think we should be putting a lot more energy and resources in making schools less likely to be adversely affected by covid.

Putting more resources into education would also help vulnerable children, I assume that if you care about them you will be voting for parties that will do this x

@MarshaBradyo

Here with those stats why do you think JCVI have said Covid is such low risk to children the tiny risk associated with vaccination outweighs it?

The JCVI have put off their decision.

The individual risk of covid symptoms over 8 weeks in as 5-17 (if there are no other complicating factors especially) sounds quite small at 1.8%.

However, 1.8% of all cases mounts up to a rather large number, especially if we have a tally ho attitude to kids transmitting covid to each other in the classroom.

What’s it based on if not assessment of comparative risk?

Supply. Or rather, lack of it.

We have, as the vaccines minister admits, a 'tight' supply just to get all adults done.

Put simply, we don't have enough.

It's very telling that other countries are vaccinating their over 12s. America, Israel, UAE, Singapore, Europe, etc. Children there will be protected against Long Covid.

@MarshaBradyo

And it still stands that either way JCVI did announce Covid as low risk so an assessment has to be made.

All those saying no they are high risk are running against this statement.

No one said it is "high risk", just that 1.8% of potentially several million will mount up (it/s maths).

Here Thanks for the ‘it’s maths’ for a minute I wasn’t sure

We’ve had statements on whether it’s ethical to vaccinate children to protect adults. The benefit to the group being vaccinated needs to be apparent.

If you all agree that vaccination carries tiny risk then the same must follow for Covid for this even to be a consideration.

Personally I hope they vaccinate 12 plus. It still doesn’t resolve primary age situation. And isolation is still blunt as a solution which brings its own harm.

There's little point arguing about or discussing it.

We don't have enough supply to do children.

The only possible choice (until we get hold of more) is whether to prioritise CEV and CV children over healthy 18-29s?

We’ll have supply. We were being lambasted for ‘hoarding’ recently on here it’s not all AZ

I expect our limited supply (and removal of masks in schools) is partly why we've opened 15 paediatric Long Covid clinics. I suspect they're anticipating more cases of Long Covid in children over the coming weeks and months.

What happened to that over supply Tea?

All those posts going on and on about UK hoarding? Everyone outraged. What figure was it again?

Enough to vaccinate a few times over

@MarshaBradyo

We’ll have supply. We were being lambasted for ‘hoarding’ recently on here it’s not all AZ

Right now we don't. The future is not now.

Currently our supply is, to quote vaccines minister, Nadhim Zahawi, 'tight'. That's for adults.

We have more deliveries due in the future but that's no good right now.

Most other developed countries are vaccinating their children (over 12) now.

We’ll get it. Tough as it is that’s life.

@MarshaBradyo

What happened to that over supply Tea?

All those posts going on and on about UK hoarding? Everyone outraged. What figure was it again?

Enough to vaccinate a few times over

That's our total order. Advance orders (paid for upfront), due to be delivered at some later date.

All those posts desperate to give supply away to EU and elsewhere. Really people just swing every which way to lambast where they can

Why are we vaccination young when elderly in EU and other waiting they went on

Vaccinating

You're behind the times. Half of EU are already vaccinating children. It's looking increasingly like a tortoise and hare situation.

@Tealightsandd

You're behind the times. Half of EU are already vaccinating children. It's looking increasingly like a tortoise and hare situation.

Still didn’t stop posters going on about it

Now it’s all waaah what about our young

Some people seem really desperate for no mitigation measures whatsoever. Don't want lockdowns - but also don't want any of the alternatives. Masks, vaccinations, border control.