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DFE tells schools prepare for the worst.

504 replies

3asAbird · 19/06/2021 09:39

www.tes.com/news/covid-schools-told-plan-more-remote-learning

Feeling so cross why allow schools to stop masks on may 17th.
When Hancock knew the delta varient was present in April 2021.

School outbreaks my councils 46 this week and a fair few in neighbouring county with some schools fully shut.
Lots senior transition days and inter sports tournament cancelled.

We know from Kent alpha varient took a few months get really bad.
Some say 6 week break act as firebreak.
I am bot so sure as people will travel and mingle and in some cases School maybe mirror community transmission which is on the rise.

I wish having would go for starters.
They said they making education a priority back in march.
This term has been rubbish for many.
I have no faith that autumn term be any different.

No mitigation measures on ventilation
No masks or compulsory testing.
No smaller class sizes.
No vaccines for under 18s.

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AliceLivesHere · 19/06/2021 23:28

@noblegiraffe

Because, Alice, they've lost the argument and have to resort to personal insults. Goodnight.
They just have a different opinion to you 🤦‍♂️
noblegiraffe · 19/06/2021 23:32

The suggestion that it's unacceptable that your own child should isolate from school for 10 days, but that vulnerable children should simply homeschool forever is not a difference of opinions, but a difference of morals.

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 23:33

@noblegiraffe

The suggestion that it's unacceptable that your own child should isolate from school for 10 days, but that vulnerable children should simply homeschool forever is not a difference of opinions, but a difference of morals.
Yes this.
Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 23:34

And also, still people want to ignore/downplay/deny the risks - to adults AND children - of Long Covid.

HazeyJaneII · 19/06/2021 23:35

@noblegiraffe

He is starting secondary at an amazing special school in September, after years of fighting for him to get the right support and being failed by a flawed system.

Really hope it works out for him, Hazey. It's hard enough getting an EHCP for a child, let alone a place at a special school.

Thankyou @noblegiraffe, it's a big transition after the year he has had, but I'm hoping, if he stays well, it will be the right place for him to flourish.
AliceLivesHere · 19/06/2021 23:36

@noblegiraffe

The suggestion that it's unacceptable that your own child should isolate from school for 10 days, but that vulnerable children should simply homeschool forever is not a difference of opinions, but a difference of morals.
You still banging on.

Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate. Just sent home in many cases and miss school for another 10 days. On and on.... the days add up.

If some children are vulnerable and parents want them to stay safe and home educated then they are safe and educated. Win win.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

noblegiraffe · 19/06/2021 23:38

Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate

That's not how it's meant to be, take it up with the school.

HazeyJaneII · 19/06/2021 23:40

@noblegiraffe

The suggestion that it's unacceptable that your own child should isolate from school for 10 days, but that vulnerable children should simply homeschool forever is not a difference of opinions, but a difference of morals.
Yes to this

Also, if the only option is to homeschool ds until whenever (or remote learn...as deregistering would potentially lose him all the EHCP support we have fought for) - then the government are going to have to come up with a bit better support for families like ours....me, unable to work, paying out for a Twinkl subscription and trying to organise my own physio and SALT sessions is not going to cut it for that long.

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 23:40

@noblegiraffe

Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate

That's not how it's meant to be, take it up with the school.

This.

Also by your own argument, you can just do the same for children isolating that you suggest for vulnerable children. Home educate. It's either ok for all or not ok for all. Vulnerable children count just as much as any other child.

HazeyJaneII · 19/06/2021 23:42

If some children are vulnerable and parents want them to stay safe and home educated then they are safe and educated. Win win.

Did you ready posts?

Win win....jeez thanks

AliceLivesHere · 19/06/2021 23:42

@noblegiraffe

Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate

That's not how it's meant to be, take it up with the school.

I have, each time!

They say they will provide work but they don't. Cannot teach in class and set work for those sent off to isolate again. Yes I get that. So children home and no set work etc again.
So if vulnerable children were at home safe and educated then non vulnerable children at school and educated...win win

MarshaBradyo · 19/06/2021 23:45

It’s not just school work ie content received it’s online learning which can be demotivating and isolation - you cannot leave the house. Some in flats no garden.

Chessie sums it up for me - slowing it down over the years doesn’t actually stop the end result.

AliceLivesHere · 19/06/2021 23:46

@Tealightsandd

Yes I agree with you but they DON'T supply work when they are sent home. It's groundhog day. Home to isolate and no set work.

HazeyJaneII · 19/06/2021 23:48

Sorry, that was meant to say, did you read my posts

By the way, Thankyou for banging on @noblegiraffe!

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 23:48

It’s not just school work ie content received it’s online learning which can be demotivating and isolation - you cannot leave the house. Some in flats no garden.

What makes you think that's different for vulnerable children? They face those same issues.

Some - those initially advised to shield - have been isolated for a year. You'll know that from the guardian article I posted upthread.

MarshaBradyo · 19/06/2021 23:49

Why do you crop out the second line?

You are slowing it down to huge cost and little benefit.

AliceLivesHere · 19/06/2021 23:51

If feels like to protect vulnerable children we race to the bottom and send children home to isolate are everyone loses out.
Non vulnerable isolate and no work set so miss out. Meanwhile, vulnerable in school and worried in case they get covid.

There must be a better way

Tealightsandd · 19/06/2021 23:51

[quote AliceLivesHere]@Tealightsandd

Yes I agree with you but they DON'T supply work when they are sent home. It's groundhog day. Home to isolate and no set work.[/quote]
That is a problem. The government should've set up decent remote learning for all children who need it. Other countries did.

Willyoujustbequiet · 20/06/2021 02:04

My dd is vulnerable and on isolation. She is taking part in a normal timetable and all lessons are live streamed. I'm surprised this isnt the case elsewhere.

Getawaywithit · 20/06/2021 06:25

@noblegiraffe

The suggestion that it's unacceptable that your own child should isolate from school for 10 days, but that vulnerable children should simply homeschool forever is not a difference of opinions, but a difference of morals.
Quite. This pandemic with the ‘bit he had under lying conditions’ making deaths somehow acceptable has demonstrated just how, as a society, we have no tolerance whatsoever for any kind of weakness or imperfection in others, ironic when there has been cry after cry about people’s mental health. The mental health of those with conditions that make them vulnerable to covid is unimportant.
Getawaywithit · 20/06/2021 06:32

Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate

Well that’s not true. In my school, we teach isolating children online. We just open a Teams call and they are in the room with us. It’s not perfect, I agree, but there is an expectation they attend if they are well. My children’s school up.pads to Google classroom every morning and send you a report on outstanding work at the end of isolation.

If some children are vulnerable and parents want them to stay safe and home educated then they are safe and educated. Win win.Why is that so difficult to understand?

Why is it so difficult to understand that covid protection measures can be put in place both in schools and in the community so that vulnerable children can be educated alongside their peers? Why should children managing conditions that are none of their faults be left at home? Why should I as a parent have to give up my job (and as a single parent then lose the roof over our heads) because my child has a condition that makes him vulnerable to covid? Why does the mental and physical health of the thousands of vulnerable children who struggled during lockdown matter but the mental health of vulnerable to covid children not matter?

motherrunner · 20/06/2021 06:45

@AliceLivesHere Pupils should be provided with work. If I have students isolating then, like a PP, they join via a Teams call and they are ‘in’ class. It’s not perfect as if they want to speak to me they have to type on the chat but it keeps them up to date with their work. It’s cases like this when schools don’t fulfil their duties that you ha e to be ‘that’ parent and remind them of their obligations.

AliceLivesHere · 20/06/2021 07:13

@Getawaywithit

Oh dear 😳 I just imagined that my child didn't get provided with work because your school provides it.

Perhaps that is why I don't agree with sending home no work provided.

I have complained but hey ho too busy teaching those in school. Sadly still not all schools are the same. Interesting how some assume a simple complaint sorts the problem, it doesn't.

Getawaywithit · 20/06/2021 07:33

Oh dear 😳 I just imagined that my child didn't get provided with work because your school provides it

No love, you made a one size fits all comment 'Children that are sent home to isolate are NOT provided with work to home educate'. I simply showed you that this isn't the case. I also didn't say anything at all about making a complaint.

You're still happy for my children to miss school, social interaction, and his education alongside his peers so your child doesn't have to though. Says it all.

mrshoho · 20/06/2021 07:33

Quite. This pandemic with the ‘bit he had under lying conditions’ making deaths somehow acceptable has demonstrated just how, as a society, we have no tolerance whatsoever for any kind of weakness or imperfection in others, ironic when there has been cry after cry about people’s mental health. The mental health of those with conditions that make them vulnerable to covid is unimportant.

Yes and people should know we're only ever a day away from finding either ourselves or family members as part of this group with 'Underlying health problems'. Health is fragile even in those who believe themselves invincible.