DFE tells schools prepare for the worst.

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www.tes.com/news/covid-schools-told-plan-more-remote-learning

Feeling so cross why allow schools to stop masks on may 17th.
When Hancock knew the delta varient was present in April 2021.

School outbreaks my councils 46 this week and a fair few in neighbouring county with some schools fully shut.
Lots senior transition days and inter sports tournament cancelled.

We know from Kent alpha varient took a few months get really bad.
Some say 6 week break act as firebreak.
I am bot so sure as people will travel and mingle and in some cases School maybe mirror community transmission which is on the rise.

I wish having would go for starters.
They said they making education a priority back in march.
This term has been rubbish for many.
I have no faith that autumn term be any different.

No mitigation measures on ventilation
No masks or compulsory testing.
No smaller class sizes.
No vaccines for under 18s.

What do people think is going to happen in primary after things open up?

Or secondary for that matter as probably won’t be vaccinated

I carry my full 'remote learning' kit back and forth to school every day. Laptop, webcam, electronic notepad. Could happen at any point.

I don’t think schools are over reacting at all-they are holding unmasked, poorly ventilated indoor gatherings with large groups of people daily-hourly in secondary. It’s reassuring to me as a parent that close contacts of positive cases are being isolated.

@Appuskidu

I don’t think schools are over reacting at all-they are holding unmasked, poorly ventilated indoor gatherings with large groups of people daily-hourly in secondary. It’s reassuring to me as a parent that close contacts of positive cases are being isolated.

Do you think they’ll keep doing this after ‘freedom day’?

It’ll be the summer holidays by then, but who knows what will happen in September.

It's obvious, Marsha, because you've been posting left right and centre that daily LFTs should replace isolation. And yet you have provided no evidence that this is a good idea.

There was no need to stop masks in schools in May.
Let them wear them till the end of this school year and reassess over the summer.
But that's too logical!

Have I Giraffe

I’ve mostly been irritated, as are all the parents not just me, that we’re in this position. I haven’t said much about daily LFTs, my point below and in other posts was negative PCR releasing children. I haven’t said much on it as haven’t given it much thought - I do want some change though.

Cases are rising, society is benefiting from the lowering link between cases and hospitalisation and as a priority so should children. That was the general gist wasn’t it - children first.

I also think those people who want this for their dc - will realise this is for adults not children. After everything opens I can’t see it continuing. So what then? They all get it anyway just delayed.m

Do you think they’ll keep doing this after ‘freedom day

Yes, I expect it too. They have never said the need to isolate or test will be removed at that stage that I have seen. I suspect we will be back under restrictions in October after a summer of mixing if last year is anything to go by.

I’ve mostly been irritated, as are all the parents not just me, that we’re in this position.

Yes, and the obvious way to reduce the number of children having to isolate in schools is to introduce proper mitigation measures.

It's the same as it was from Sept to Dec when millions of kids had to isolate, and yet some parents were remarkably resistant to the suggestion that maybe some money ought to be put into schools to stop infection rates rising there.

No one is going to say no to money. ‘Blended learning’ on the other hand saw the issues with numbers - as I thought would happen as we had that in Summer.

We are still wearing masks, have one way systems and the buildings are 'bubble allocated with extra cleaning with some areas that are KS3 one day and KS4 the next eg DT.

We are 'keeping' staff laptops with a view of potential lockdown learning next terms and there is a major push for everything to be on Teams (in readiness for the switch being flicked)

Yeah well you saw the resistance to any of my suggestions on here, Marsha (blended learning was not one of them), so it seems that there were people willing to object to anything.

I was just thinking about a few threads and I remember saying if I could focus on one thing it would be ventilation. I thought the unions could drive that issue. But it doesn’t really help us posting this stuff nothing happens.

I can’t see society fully free and children isolating still in September I very much hope not!

Double vaccinate parents and teachers and get on with it. The amount of adults that have had the vaccine in my area is pitifully low. That jeopardises schools being open and that really annoys me. Anyone saying masks should be worn in school has never set foot in a school or is deluded. If scientists tested the efficacy of masks by wearing them the way teenagers wear them, they would all have laugh at themselves and ditch the mask idea. Don’t get me started on bubbles! They virtually all have siblings and use public transport to get to secondary school, so how do bubbles work? Lateral flow tests aren’t great either. You might as well wake up in the morning and guess if you have covid - probably marginally more accurate. Schools are not covid secure and never will be. Children are at a very low risk from covid but adults aren’t so we have to vaccinate ourselves to help our children get a decent education.

I can’t see society fully free and children isolating still in September

September is, unfortunately, a long way off yet. Lots of jabs to be done before then.

noblegiraffe

Yes, and the obvious way to reduce the number of children having to isolate in schools is to introduce proper mitigation measures.

I find it very sad that after more than 12 months we are still having to say this, and that people are still not listening.

@FrippEnos

noblegiraffe

Yes, and the obvious way to reduce the number of children having to isolate in schools is to introduce proper mitigation measures.

I find it very sad that after more than 12 months we are still having to say this, and that people are still not listening.

I find it bizarre, as well as sad.

People will do ANYTHING to avoid having to suggest that, just maybe, better mitigation in school would be (and would always have been) the way forward.

'Isolation is a waste of time'

'Let's just test them on a test which picks up less than half the positive cases'

' Children don't get it'

'Children don't pass it on'

'Schools are safe'

'Children aren't mixing inside schools, infection must be coming from outside school'

' No children get ill'

' All adults in school have been fully vaccinated already'

' As the vaccination programme is going well, no adults will catch Covid from school children'

pl;us the deflected blame
'Children only get Covid in school if the adults in school aren't following guidelines'
'My school hasn't got Covid because it's a better school than yours'
'Teachers all want to stay at home and lie in the garden;'
'Teachers hate children and want them to be miserable, so they use Covid as an excuse to stop them having any fun'

Plus the parenting fails
'They should shut the windows in school because it's too cold'
'My child doesn't like wearing a face mask so they shouldn't have to'
'Its only a cough, how silly that the school is sending them home. I won't test, that's ridiculous'
'A sleepover [of the whole football team] won't matter'

Masks are very difficult in this hot weather though - aren't they? Isn't that why they were stopped being used. I work in a school and do wear a mask on and off when inside. When it's hot it's extremely uncomfortable - I can't imagine the kids having to wear them all the time in this heat.

Added to this nobody can hear what I'm saying with a mask on.

I just asked on the graphs thread is it likely dc will get it.

Knowledgeable poster said yes likely, I’m cities are least. So we’re merely delaying for adults.

Well yes, unless they vaccinate the kids.

@noblegiraffe

Well yes, unless they vaccinate the kids.

All of them? How likely under 12

It’s not even looking likely over 12 [shrug]

Hah, no 🤷‍♀️ emoji!

Right back to what I posted. All this and they get it anyway.