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How come US have such low Covid cases...

141 replies

Mimosafortea · 17/06/2021 19:53

US aren’t really distancing anymore are they...?
I have a friend who lives there and says her life
is pretty much back to normal.

How come? Why are the cases rising again in the UK?

Are we ever honestly going to go back to living
normally?

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Baileysforchristmas · 18/06/2021 15:18

@Dustyboots totally agree.

Parker231 · 18/06/2021 17:18

@MariposaLilly

The way Trump handled Covid was criminal. Thank goodness Biden is encouraging mass vaccination programmes.

www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1252580

2018SoFarSoGreat · 18/06/2021 18:50

@MariposaLilly seriously? I'm sorry, but you really could help yourself by doing some reading. Of science, facts, history. That might help you understand what has gone down here.

strangeshapedpotato · 18/06/2021 20:20

@Wakeupin2022

Federal US government is limited in what it can order states to do. I think the US is closer to the EU in structure than a single country like the UK - individual US states have a huge degree of autonomy.

The UK is not a single country and never had been. The clue is in the name......

LMAO

The clue is in the name....

Which is "United Kingdom".

Do you know what "United" means?
Do you know what a "Kingdom" is?

Now if we lived in the DK (Divided Kingdoms) you may have had a point, but....

mathanxiety · 19/06/2021 20:27

To be fair, it's the 'United' States.

However, powers are derogated to a large degree to states, and even to counties and individual incorporated areas (cities) within states when it comes to public health.

mathanxiety · 19/06/2021 20:59

I respectfully disagree that states are not reporting stats on testing, etc, zafferana.

You can google your chosen [state name covid testing stats] and find information.

Here are a few examples:
www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics
Illinois

coronavirus.maryland.gov/
Maryland

dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/Coronavirus.aspx
Nebraska

www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/airborne/coronavirus/data.shtml
Maine

Mathshelpme · 20/06/2021 00:13

Us numpties are testing 1.2 million people a day, including asymptomatic people and children. We are literally looking for cases to report and turning ourselves into leper island.
Our positivity rates are low.

mathanxiety · 20/06/2021 06:46

Bangs head on desk...

MrsTrellisofNWales · 20/06/2021 07:27

Covid test positivity rates 15th June
ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed
UK 0.8%
USA 2.4%
France 1.3%
Germany 2.3%
Italy 0.8%
Spain 5.6%
India 3.7%

Tests per 1 million population
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
US 1.5m
UK 2.9m

So UK twice rate of testing than US and third of the positivity rate from tests.

Poorlykitten · 20/06/2021 07:35

U.K. is testing more than US.

Pinchoftums · 20/06/2021 07:43

US had 360 deaths on Friday the cases may have tested lower but the deaths are much higher. Our testing strategy may be working.

User135644 · 20/06/2021 07:44

America is a vast country. UK is extremely overpopulated.

sashh · 20/06/2021 09:48

Are the whole of Europe’s borders closed?

It's not possible to close them all, there is at least one house that is half in the Netherlands and half in Belgium.

medium.com/@iamdanw/the-village-the-village-a4d2bc51daef

You can drive down a straight road in someplaces and the road signs will tell you if you are in Germany, the Netherlands or Belgium.

I once stayed on a British Airbase in Germany, the closest town was in Holland and the nearest supermarket in Belgium.

Obviously countries can introduce local rules about travel and lockdowns but when you can literally be crossing a boarder when you go into your kitchen it can's be done.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 20/06/2021 17:12

@mathanxiety

Bangs head on desk...
I find the changes in rates most reassuring. Cases, tests, hospitalizations and positivity rates have all dropped significantly since the winter.

There’s less testing because there’s less to test for.

Here in Maine according to the head of our CDC…

“Stat of the day: there are currently 38 people hospitalized in #Maine with #COVID19. 20 are in the ICU and 12 are on a ventilator.

One incubation period ago (2 weeks), there were 90 people hospitalized w/COVID, 30 in the ICU and 20 on ventilators.”

This is typical of most of the country despite the fact that most states have reopened significantly in the last 2 months.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 20/06/2021 17:15

It’s was also significant that we had Memorial Day with airports packed and everyone traveling, but cases continued to fall in the incubation period afterwards.

Mathshelpme · 20/06/2021 18:04

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

There’s nothing to test for hardly here either.
I’m in Wales. Our hospitalisation numbers are the lowest they’ve been during the entire pandemic. We have had 2 Covid deaths during June. But our first minister Mark Drakeford is talking lockdowns and bloody rising cases…it’s absolute madness. Throughout the entire of May we had 19 Covid deaths…we are a small country, but there are still 3 million people living here.
We have a developing culture of promoting fear to maintain control.
We have some of the lowest positivity rates in Europe and certainly lower than the States, and I’m talking the UK not just Wales!
But for some reason we are testing anyone and everyone, advertising variants, some that don’t even exist like the “Nepal variant” and talking about restrictions continuing to allow the NHS to catch-up with routine appointments as we now have a pandemic induced 12,000,000 person long NHS waiting list.
Our government is certifiably insane. That’s the only answer I can think of.

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