How come US have such low Covid cases...

[Mimosafortea]

US aren’t really distancing anymore are they...?
I have a friend who lives there and says her life
is pretty much back to normal.

How come? Why are the cases rising again in the UK?

Are we ever honestly going to go back to living
normally?

Not as large percentage of population test as compared to UK. Additionally, there are many, many who still don’t believe there is covid and don’t get tested at all, even in throws if the illness.

There’s a lot of moaning about wearing masks in the state I’m in, but no exceptions to doing it. If you don’t wear one then you’re not going in to the shop etc.

For some reason there are people in the U.K. that think we are the only place that hasn’t gone back to ‘normal’. Mainly because they are bored of a pandemic.

When in fact it’s not true. Even the most relaxed countries quite often still have some form of restrictions. For example many place had masks outside, they may have relaxed that to just public transport/hospitals etc, we didn’t even have masks outside

Some of the responses of those that live In the USA have shown that actually some restrictions have only just stopped while some are firmly in place and it varies so much state to state. Yes I’m sure some states have little in the way of restriction but probably they are the ones whose vaccine take up is lower and who didn’t restrict much anyway..

Vaccines here in the US are free and readily available - pretty much everywhere. I live in a agricultural part of the country and haven't really noticed there has been a pandemic. There hasn't been the pandemic paranoia in our neck of the woods. I have been to other areas and witnessed people driving their cars alone wearing masks. Same with people walking alone in the fresh air with their mask firmly in place.

I see there's the usual mindless Trump bashing here.

Thank goodness President Trump acted quickly and stopped travel from China. Trump also fast tracked the vaccine. The media attacked him (again) when he said Hydroxychloroquine could be used as an effective covid treatment. He was proven right. The MSM said hydroxychloroquine was an untested and dangerous drug. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for years - I have been prescribed it off-label for a autoimmune disorder. When Trump called covid the China Virus and was called a racist (again). Once again not only is he right but it looks as if it was released from a Chinese lab. So it's very, very Chinese.

Nobody really knows who's running the country now. It's certainly not Biden. Maybe it's Biden's son Hunter. Biden did say Hunter is the smartest person he knows after all.

I thought they were fairly similar to here. They are 20th in the world for covid deaths per 100000 of population and we are 19th. I also know a lot of people (with citizenship) who have been travelling there and back throughout, so it is not as restricted as somewhere like Australia.

Things have been hugely better since Biden. To be honest things would have better with pretty much anyone else other than Trump but Biden and Harris are restoring some sense of decency.

@MariposaLilly

Vaccines here in the US are free and readily available - pretty much everywhere. I live in a agricultural part of the country and haven't really noticed there has been a pandemic. There hasn't been the pandemic paranoia in our neck of the woods. I have been to other areas and witnessed people driving their cars alone wearing masks. Same with people walking alone in the fresh air with their mask firmly in place.

I see there's the usual mindless Trump bashing here.

Thank goodness President Trump acted quickly and stopped travel from China. Trump also fast tracked the vaccine. The media attacked him (again) when he said Hydroxychloroquine could be used as an effective covid treatment. He was proven right. The MSM said hydroxychloroquine was an untested and dangerous drug. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for years - I have been prescribed it off-label for a autoimmune disorder. When Trump called covid the China Virus and was called a racist (again). Once again not only is he right but it looks as if it was released from a Chinese lab. So it's very, very Chinese.

Nobody really knows who's running the country now. It's certainly not Biden. Maybe it's Biden's son Hunter. Biden did say Hunter is the smartest person he knows after all.

🤨

Less international travel. The majority of US citizens don't even have a passport and never leave the country. Plus the borders have been mostly closed for well over a year.

Because they have someone decent in charge finally?

So if the US has a lower fully vaccinated percentage than the UK, which states are the ones with very low vaccination rates if some states have 70% vaccinated? And how low is it? Is Texas horrendous? Or are the homeless and illegal immigrants not counted in the State vaccination rates?

Because nobody is testing and recording the numbers in the same way. The whole this is a farce. The UK are doing 100s and 1000s of LFT tests a week, which have been shown to be giving 60% false positives, these are recorded into our figures.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9699303/Hugely-disruptive-Test-Trace-schools-axed-60-positive-results-negative.html

I think we are about to see the tide turning and symptomatic people declining to be tested

I don’t think they’re testing half as much as we are.

My family is from the USA (Colorado, Georgia, loads still living there). My dds dad lives there (East coast). Not one of them have done a single Covid test. They’re all shocked by how many we’ve done and how much the UK tests. They just think it’s all a waste of time and won’t do it.

My dds dad (who to be fair is an arsehole anyway, we’ve been separated 17 years!) carries on like the pandemic is a joke. He and his friends have been hanging out round each other’s houses all the way through, parking their cars down different streets so people don’t think there’s a party going on.

If this is even a small snapshot of how many people aren’t testing or following the rules it shows how skewed the results must be overall even if lots of people are doing things properly.

@Malteser71

I think we are about to see the tide turning and symptomatic people declining to be tested

I think this is already happening here and in the USA.

Trump also fast tracked the vaccine.

This is the only correct statement in what you have written. However, Trump was no faster than the UK (I work in Pharma) as can be seen by the comparable dates of approval and the comparable vaccination date. The drop in vaccination is necessary in the US due to the lack of a NHS. We vaccinated here in order of vulnerability whereas in the US it was about accessibility to healthcare.

That should say drop-in vaccination centres

Whether hybrid/online learning "went well" in USA is still to be determined.

Hawaii closed the borders for over a year. They have only just reopened. Many states imposed a quarantine rule for visitors from out of state.

Tbf, though, Hawaii and Alaska are far more difficult to access than the lower 48 and very expensive destinations. Easier to quarantine!

Or is just luck and timing . A few months ago people were wondering why India was doing so well. Lots of posts about why that might be. A few months and an estimated million deaths later.... ( yes that is much higher than the official reported numbers but unlikely to be far off the actual truth)

The US has not had the Delta variant ( yet). I think numbers will rise again there when it arrives ( which it will). Their vaccination drive is not as successful as it is here so they may be worse affected by it in terms of deaths. Fingers crossed, we seem to be getting enough vaccinations done just in time to prevent large numbers of deaths in the UK though it is hard to know for sure

They are much stricter about masks for a start. No exemptions in supermarkets, unlike here where we are wishy washy about it.

I don’t think India was doing well before, just deaths, sickness and infections aren’t recorded the same as the UK, then it exploded and there was no hiding place. It’s silly to compare different countries as they don’t test and record data the same way. 5 million births of under 5’s in India aren’t even recorded, how on earth do you know how many people have died let alone what of 🤷‍♀️

India’s cases have plummeted because of a national dictate on Ivermectin.....that conspiracy theory drug —that works—

Is the USA using a different Vaccine than the UK?

Also a lot of doctors in the us using ivermectin 🤷‍♀️

Our inability in the UK to rationally examine the evidence on ivermectin is incredible

www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/ivermectin-for-covid-19-a-cheap-drug-with-a-remarkable-effect