Fully vaccinated person mixing with infected people?

[MagicSummer]

Does anyone know of any cases where a fully vaccinated individual, having mixed unwittingly with other people who were infected, later caught the virus? If so, it is commonplace or not really worth worrying about?

It will be very common.

What happens to the vaccinated person after infected is another matter. If they have a strong immune system then they may not even show any symptoms of infection thanks to the vaccine.

Yes me 😔I’m fully vaccinated and now got Covid. Caught off husband who wasn’t vaccinated. He got from visiting sister she is fully vaccinated, sister was unwittingly in car with person that was positive. It’s such a mess .

Yes, friend of mine who is fully vaccinated has caught it off her partner who isn't vaccinated. A lateral flow test was negative but she booked a pcr because of her work and she is positive with no symptoms.

Yes, they can catch it. It's likely that they will have a mild case, but when they talk about 95% effective, it means that for 5% it could be the same as if they were unimmunized and their age/sex/weight/general health will remain relevant factors.

That's why we need to keep case numbers down. 5% of a small number means that although the unlucky few could become very ill, it won't be an issue for society in general. But as a proportion of a large number, it'll mean the NHS has to continue to have augmented infectious disease provision year round (not just during the winter virus season)

Well given that the vaccine is 80% effective against contracting covid then 20% will be as likely to catch it as they were before they were vaccinated.

However they are far far far less likely to be hospitalised if they do catch it.

As someone who was double dosed, may I ask how you feel *cheeses

Also which vax?

Yes it’s possible to be fully vaccinated and to get covid and to even die from it. No vaccination has 100% success rates. I took the screen photo below from the BBC website.

Surely this is the reason they took the vaccine in the first place?

I’m totally pissed off. I work in care too so have been very careful all through. I don’t get paid if I’m off work, and have had to use annual leave and the rest sick pay . Which is pittance 😞

This is the lovely situation that NHS staff find themselves in.

My partner's hospital has quite a few unvaccinated patients who did not trust medical science to give them a safe vaccine but now do trust medical science to give them various drugs and breathing support to stop them dying of Covid.

They did not give a thought to the staff who would be exposed to their huge viral load (all vaccinated innit..., me, me me did not want to get vaccinated).

@AllEffingHopeless

This is the lovely situation that NHS staff find themselves in.

My partner's hospital has quite a few unvaccinated patients who did not trust medical science to give them a safe vaccine but now do trust medical science to give them various drugs and breathing support to stop them dying of Covid.

They did not give a thought to the staff who would be exposed to their huge viral load (all vaccinated innit..., me, me me did not want to get vaccinated).

That's appalling. Do any of those patients show any regret at refusing the vaccine or do they stand by their choice?

@Hax wtf. Surely the staff have been vaccinated?

@cheeseslovesme

Yes me 😔I’m fully vaccinated and now got Covid. Caught off husband who wasn’t vaccinated. He got from visiting sister she is fully vaccinated, sister was unwittingly in car with person that was positive. It’s such a mess .

When’s your husband getting the vaccine?

@cheeseslovesme

Yes me 😔I’m fully vaccinated and now got Covid. Caught off husband who wasn’t vaccinated. He got from visiting sister she is fully vaccinated, sister was unwittingly in car with person that was positive. It’s such a mess .

Are you or any of the others involved feeling unwell? Likely to be hospitalised or very ill? If not, I don't see whats the big deal.

Those figures don't tell you enough. The 26 who died 14 days or more after 2nd vaccine could have been very old and frail with other health conditions

Like old William Shakespeare who got the first Astra Zenica in UK

Yep, I know two people who got infected last week in the same place, both middle aged and double vaccinated several weeks ago.

Didn’t Andrew Marr get a nasty case even after being vaccinated?

I know a few people (Tartan Army) who have come down with COVID despite having had it last year as well.

People still need to be careful!

@CrazyCatsAndKittens

Didn’t Andrew Marr get a nasty case even after being vaccinated?

I know a few people (Tartan Army) who have come down with COVID despite having had it last year as well.

People still need to be careful!

Yes I just read about that actually. He said he had it last week and is better now so doesn't sound like it was a nasty case at all and that the vaccine did its job well

@ChocOrange1

Are you or any of the others involved feeling unwell? Likely to be hospitalised or very ill? If not, I don't see whats the big deal.

Because the OP unknowingly passed it on to a neighbour who was also fully vaccinated, who passed it on to her CEV husband, who though vaccinated had due to his condition had had very little reaction to the vaccine and subsequently dies.

That's just one example for why it matters. If case numbers get high enough AND the virus can travel through vaccinated people, then there is no hiding place left for anyone still susceptible to seriously illness.

The majority if people were largely unaffected by covid when they did catch it remember and sadly the old and ECV were the ones that struggled to recover . Therefore those saying it must be the vaccine are making a big assumption to be honest

@Fitforforty

Yes it’s possible to be fully vaccinated and to get covid and to even die from it. No vaccination has 100% success rates. I took the screen photo below from the BBC website.

Common misconception.

I imagine those 26 with the vaccine were all over 50. Isn’t take up 95% in that age group.

So:
26 deaths from 95% Double
34 deaths from 5% unvaccinated

I like those odds (as a person to be soon doubled vaccinated).

Whether you think it's worth worrying about depends entirely on your attitude to risk.

You must know by now that an infected person doesn't infect 100% of people they meet and that no vaccine is 100% effective so knock yourself out working out the statistical likelihood

When you realise that it's meaningless carry on with whatever precautions you feel happy with

Personally I don't worry at all but I'd be foolish to expect you to do that as you wouldn't have asked the question if that was your view.

[quote justwanttodanceagain]@ChocOrange1

Are you or any of the others involved feeling unwell? Likely to be hospitalised or very ill? If not, I don't see whats the big deal.

Because the OP unknowingly passed it on to a neighbour who was also fully vaccinated, who passed it on to her CEV husband, who though vaccinated had due to his condition had had very little reaction to the vaccine and subsequently dies.

That's just one example for why it matters. If case numbers get high enough AND the virus can travel through vaccinated people, then there is no hiding place left for anyone still susceptible to seriously illness.[/quote]
But the chances of that happening are tiny, because each fully vaccinated person is far less likely to pass it on. So the chance of 5 fully vaccinated people in a row passing it on is miniscule. We have to accept that a small number of people will still get it and die, even if 100% of the population were vaccinated, or we would never be able to return to real life.

The vaccines greatly reduce symptoms, transmission and deaths. There will always be a small risk, just as there is from innumerable other illnesses, freak accidents and conditions.