Fully vaccinated person mixing with infected people?

[MagicSummer]

Does anyone know of any cases where a fully vaccinated individual, having mixed unwittingly with other people who were infected, later caught the virus? If so, it is commonplace or not really worth worrying about?

I have spoken with a friend today who is double vaccinated a while back and just diagnosed positive, likely infected by teenage son who works in retail

@Itsprobablynotcominghome the latest data from pHe show more deaths in vaccinated. Will dig them out

[quote Nerdygirl]@Itsprobablynotcominghome the latest data from pHe show more deaths in vaccinated. Will dig them out[/quote]
I don't doubt the raw data but we're at a point now that we need to be looking beyond the headline numbers more than ever

What exactly did they die of? If it was solely covid did they have other conditions. We need to know how many otherwise healthy double jabbed people died solely from covid complications to make any meaningful observations

I'd theorize that will turn out to be a very small number of the very very small number of deaths per day now

Agree but we need to also do that with covid deaths regardless of vaccinations . How many actually did die of covid and how many tested positive and died of something else. I suspect there will be little differece if any between those who died of covid or with covid whether they were vaccinated or not

@Nerdygirl

Agree but we need to also do that with covid deaths regardless of vaccinations . How many actually did die of covid and how many tested positive and died of something else. I suspect there will be little differece if any between those who died of covid or with covid whether they were vaccinated or not

Absolutely agree, although I suspect with sucj small numbers of deaths and allocation to date of death there would be issues with medical confidentiality maybe

Someone told me that some deaths being reported this month actually occured 3 months ago. I'm very interested in what could cause what appears to be very poor data recording.

I have been double vaccinated since March and currently have Covid caught from Teenage Dd. Hacking cough and feel a bit bleugh.

Andrew Marr apparently! He was discussing on his BBC show this morning.

No one is fully vacinnated, that's the wrong term , you can only be doubly vaccinated.

@DogsSausages

No one is fully vacinnated, that's the wrong term , you can only be doubly vaccinated.

Is that a medical point or a pedantic one

It's common parlance to say fully jabbed when you've had both as two is the full number. Is there a medical difference in the terms?

I suppose if you consider that we may need booster jabs, it does imply that there is no such thing as fully vaccinated.

I know a number of colleagues who have had both vaccines and caught covid (NHS so colleagues primarily fit and healthy and wearing PPE) but none who have been ill enough for hospital. Had a few patients though. However, things are much better than they were. The vaccines are working.

@DogsSausages

No one is fully vacinnated, that's the wrong term , you can only be doubly vaccinated.

I think you can be fully vaccinated but you can’t be fully protected (because the full vaccine course doesn’t equate to full protection).

Yes, my work colleagues partner. We are all NHS, and he caught it from his adult daughter. My colleague is currently fine, her partner isn't too ill, but his daughter and her family are feeling awful apparently!

It's the same old problem with covid reporting, did they die from covid or of covid? Were they admitted to hospital because of covid and with covid, or were they in hospital and tested for covid, found to be positive but died from what non covid thing they were admitted for.

In my opinion, some people believe that by being told they are fully vaccinated against any virus or infection they are now immune to it, cannot catch it or pass it on. We are all still at risk and need to take the usual precautions. With so many different variants of Covid they still dont know which which vaccine works against which strain. No vaccine offers 100% immunity. I think the expression gives people a false sense of security.

Andrew Marr just said about this, double jabbed, felt nearly invincible, and still had a nasty bout of it.
Saying that I wouldn't choose to mix with infect people who were contagious, regardless of what they had.

@Regulus

Andrew Marr just said about this, double jabbed, felt nearly invincible, and still had a nasty bout of it. Saying that I wouldn't choose to mix with infect people who were contagious, regardless of what they had.

Yes - but he also said his symptoms were akin to a summer cold 🤷🏼‍♀️

Totally agree, also same principle should be used to ons figures for 120 k covid deaths

My daughter who works in a hospital, quite a few friends,and friends of friends, all double jabbed but are or have been ill with Covid; One of which on his second bout of the infection and is really rough.

Yes - but he also said his symptoms were akin to a summer cold 🤷🏼‍♀️
Which is all we were ever promised with the vaccines? Surely there aren't still people who believe it conferred perfect immunity?

Dd's friend caught it. Her mum felt tired and tested and was positive. Her dad tested numerous times and was never positive. Both mum and dad had both doses.

During half term, my ds had covid. I had only had my first pfizer 3 weeks before. I didn't catch it. And dh is fully vaccinated and he didn't either. In fact, none of the rest of us caught it.

@MagicSummer

Does anyone know of any cases where a fully vaccinated individual, having mixed unwittingly with other people who were infected, later caught the virus? If so, it is commonplace or not really worth worrying about?

It was on the news yesterday that 58 fully vaccinated people have died of the delta variant, so yes you can still catch covid despite being vaccinated

Died with the delta variant do you mean?

Very interesting - this is one year old article now
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-does-not-stop-infection-experts-warn.html