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If Delta variant is just like a cold ...

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Dustyboots · 14/06/2021 17:42

Why all the fuss?

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/14/delta-variant-covid-symptoms-include-headaches-sore-throat-and-runny-nose

OP posts:
SofiaMichelle · 15/06/2021 08:33

@Dustyboots

It's not "just like a cold", FFS.

That's as stupid as saying a brain tumour is just like a headache because the initial symptoms might be the same.

I’m not saying this new variant is just like a cold. It’s in the article at the beginning of the post. Have you read it?

The article is quoting from Tim Spector's ZOE update.

We contribute to the ZOE study each day and watch the updates each week. I'm familiar with exactly what was said, and the context.

Tim was talking about the symptoms in young people, the fact that PHE haven't publicised this, and that likely being the reason young people are spreading it around so much.

You then say "I'm not saying this new variant is just like a cold". But that's exactly what your OP says?

Here's the link to Tim's update which the article has quoted.

Go to around 5:45

Comefromaway · 15/06/2021 09:20

@Bryonyshcmyony

No ordinary slightly unfit people get sick of this from what I read, it's always athletes and people in the prime of their lives. I'm going to scoff a whole box of biscuits a day, the odds seem to favour that approach better after all

I know!

I know plenty of ordinary, slightly unfit people who have been knocked sideways by it too. I'm very close to a surge area and dd is studying in a surge area so most of the current Delta cases I know of are young, unvaccinated people but I've had several work colleagues been pretty ill and still not right. Also known lots of people who hardly even knew they had it.
Slowdownandsee · 15/06/2021 09:28

Thing is I’m very glad i was doing my best and being fit and healthy vs overweight and smoking or drinking as now I’ve experienced it I can really see how that has put me in the best possible starting point with or without a vaccine to fight the virus, also you don’t know until you get it how your body will react, clearly unfit people are not always ill with it, far from it obviously, but you don’t know until your body encounters it so if you are going to react badly much better to do that from a running start than an unhealthy unfit one….

Alondra · 15/06/2021 09:49

All the variants, whether they are Delta, Alpha, Gamma, or bloody Zeta, means is that until the whole world is vaccinated we are going to be dealing with the consequences of a new virus for which we don't have any immunisation against.

Flu has been around for centuries, most of the world have developed antibodies against it, we have pretty good vaccines and yet, thousands die every year because of it.

Covid IS A NEW VIRUS. We do not have any antibodies developed against it. It's amazing that we have developed vaccines so fast but until the whole world is vaccinated, we can expect variants that will try to beat the vaccines. It's how viruses work.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/06/2021 10:53

...because it has killed lots of people?

@KiaKi Deaths in the UK are lower than the average of the past five years.

It's killed lots of people. In India. Last time I checked, they are still human, even though they don't live in the UK.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/06/2021 12:43

"No ordinary slightly unfit people get sick of this from what I read, it's always athletes and people in the prime of their lives. I'm going to scoff a whole box of biscuits a day, the odds seem to favour that approach better after all."

You only need to read this thread to know that that statement is not true, @KiaKi.

I am not an athlete, nor am I in the prime of my life. I am an unfit, overweight housewife, and as I said in my earlier post on here, I ended up in hospital, on oxygen, unable to maintain oxygen saturations over 90% without it.

I've been out of hospital just over 2 weeks now, and I am still exhausted if I do anything, and breathless on the least exertion. I have lost my sense of taste and smell, and that has largely not returned. And I am not seeing any real improvement in my condition - apart from the fact that I can now maintain oxygen saturations over 90% on room air - but we are checking my sats several times a day, and I am not often managing to get over 95%, which is not that good, frankly.

And when I was in hospital, the staff told me about the second wave, where they had so many patients waiting on ambulance trolleys, to get into the covid assessment unit, that there were no ambulances on the road, and the ambulance manager was over at the unit, begging them to get some people off trolleys so he could get some ambulances back on the road.

I was nursed in isolation - what is called barrier nursing, which is a set of protocols that aim to stop the infection leaving the patient's room - all the equipment I needed had to stay in there with me, and would need deep cleaning when I was discharged. Anything that left the room needed deep cleaning - even the trays that my meals were brought on. I used disposable plates, bowls, cups and cutlery, all of which was disposed of into the bin in my room - and not an ordinary bin - everything from this bin went for special disposal, as infected waste. When my bed was changed, the dirty sheets went into a red, infected linen bag in the room, which was tied up, and then put into another red bag held open by another staff member outside the room.

Staff who came in, wore aprons, masks, visors and gloves. If they needed anything from outside the room (if they forgot to bring something in, for example) they had to go to the door and call another member of staff to fetch it - or they had to strip off and throw away the PPE, wash their hands, leave the room, fetch whatever they needed, don another set of PPE and then come back in.

I am a qualified nurse, and I can tell you that hospitals do NOT employ measures like this for trivial infections. This is how seriously the hospitals are taking Covid.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/06/2021 12:50

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Flowers that is eye-opening, to say the least. You must be finding things even harder in this heat, as well - I do hope you start to feel better soon.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/06/2021 12:55

@Dustyboots

It's not "just like a cold", FFS.

That's as stupid as saying a brain tumour is just like a headache because the initial symptoms might be the same.

I’m not saying this new variant is just like a cold. It’s in the article at the beginning of the post. Have you read it?

In your second post, at 18.20 yesterday, you said "But it's just like a bad cold".

You also misunderstood the Guardian article you linked to, quite badly. You seem very confused, which is why some people are unsure whether you are actually being serious.

Cornettoninja · 15/06/2021 13:41

That was a really interesting account @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius. I hope you have an uneventful recovery now you’re home Flowers

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/06/2021 14:53

Thank you, @JesusInTheCabbageVan and @Cornettoninja - to be honest, I feel sorrier for Dh - he is wfh and looking after me, while I sit on the couch with my iPad, my knitting and the tv. I feel OK as long as I don’t do anything - so I am not doing anything. I’m like a Victorian lady, on her chaise longue, being ‘delicate’, and getting waited on, hand and foot.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/06/2021 16:49

We should club together and buy you a little bell you can tinkle at him whenever you need something. For authenticity, you know?

Whichjab · 15/06/2021 17:15

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

We should club together and buy you a little bell you can tinkle at him whenever you need something. For authenticity, you know?
And if we collect enough we should really get her a Pug. Maybe more Edwardian but a companion pug for the delicate lady is a must.

Seriously though, wishing you a speedy recovery STDG

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/06/2021 17:28

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

We should club together and buy you a little bell you can tinkle at him whenever you need something. For authenticity, you know?
Ohh I love that idea. Dh may disagree....
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/06/2021 18:16

And we may be getting a rescue pointer from Cyprus, who I am sure will do an excellent impression of Delicate Lady’s Dog.

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