Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

What now... gangrene and hearing loss?!

31 replies

Ijustknowitstimetogo · 08/06/2021 19:38

Terrifying. Is this real?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9661367/Coronavirus-Doctors-India-claim-new-Covid-variant-giving-people-gangrene-hearing-loss.html

OP posts:
giletrouge · 08/06/2021 19:42

Not clicking on the Mail OP. Michael Rosen, who had covid last year and still suffers with symptoms (not sure if he's technically a long covid sufferer) has been left with hearing loss in one ear so I suspect this is not anything vastly new and is some form of scaremongering about things we already knew can happen.

ComtesseDeSpair · 08/06/2021 19:46

Viral infections are the cause of / linked to up to 50% of acquired hearing loss, so it’s very possible Covid has caused some people to lose hearing; but it’s also not something novel to be reported as if it’s particular to Covid.

WRT gangrene, I think we’d need to see cases outwith India before we could make a definitive link.

MonopolyBoot · 08/06/2021 19:53

Hurray! Something else to look forward to.

Good old Covid, the gift that keeps giving

Ijustknowitstimetogo · 08/06/2021 20:00

It really does doesn’t it.

OP posts:
NotSoLongGoodbye · 08/06/2021 20:17

My DH had hearing loss after a non-Covid viral infection about 3 years ago. His hearing was impaired for about a year which is why I have very little truck with the idea of long Covid somehow being special. Many viruses can cause long term symptoms

Motorina · 08/06/2021 20:34

Covid can lead to bacterial secondary infections/pneumonia. Pneumonia can lead to sepsis. Sepsis can lead to gangrene.

Covid also massively increases clotting. Peripheral clotting causes gangrene.

I would be astonished if covid didn't cause gangrene, frankly.

Dustyboots · 08/06/2021 20:38

I have significant hearing loss after a viral infection as a teenager

KatherineOfGaunt · 08/06/2021 20:44

I have an unexplained hearing loss and one possibility is that I had a viral infection, as I had a prolonged bout of labyrinthitis. So it wouldn't surprise me if Covid could also cause hearing loss.

thecatsatonthewall · 08/06/2021 20:46

@Motorina

Covid can lead to bacterial secondary infections/pneumonia. Pneumonia can lead to sepsis. Sepsis can lead to gangrene.

Covid also massively increases clotting. Peripheral clotting causes gangrene.

I would be astonished if covid didn't cause gangrene, frankly.

Yet no cases in Western Europe?

Get grip.

ICanSmellSummerComing · 08/06/2021 21:29

There maybe special circs in India leading to this!
The heat lack of drugs and medical care etc.

giletrouge · 08/06/2021 21:39

Well how interesting that OP responds to the only post that takes the same tone of hysteria as the article seems it might, and not to the many other posts responding calmly and with facts.

Meaty226 · 08/06/2021 21:41

@giletrouge

Not clicking on the Mail OP. Michael Rosen, who had covid last year and still suffers with symptoms (not sure if he's technically a long covid sufferer) has been left with hearing loss in one ear so I suspect this is not anything vastly new and is some form of scaremongering about things we already knew can happen.
He is 75.

Old people die or get ill - the latter in his case. If it hadn't been covid, it would have been something else that did something to his weak elderly body.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/06/2021 21:43

I read that mini clots appear in the skin which cause gangrene.

Duckypoohs · 08/06/2021 21:43

It's like a Swiss army knife of a virus Hmm or they can't be arsed and blame everything on it.

Duckypoohs · 08/06/2021 21:45

Can it become a weightless virus? That would be handy, or a gardening virus?

freethekids · 08/06/2021 21:49

was not that keen on the sound of the black mould also reported with the Delta variant....

Gloschick · 08/06/2021 21:50

Motorina is right. The fact that patients are presenting with gangrene is just a reflection on the different ways patients are accessing healthcare in India. Plenty of people have sadly lost toes/limbs etc during covid. Link attached as an example.

@www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-55369349

SonnetForSpring · 08/06/2021 21:54

"He is 75.

Old people die or get ill - the latter in his case. If it hadn't been covid, it would have been something else that did something to his weak elderly body"

Just wow.

Meaty226 · 08/06/2021 21:55

I wonder if poor sanitation might be linked to gangrene rather than Covid?

I feel there is a trend of trying to link anything bad to Covid - to the point of ridiculousness. Do people feel this is helpful? Or will more and more people doubt the offical Covid narrative as it gets sillier and sillier?

BarbarianMum · 08/06/2021 21:59

There are people in the uk who have lost extremities with covid due to clotting. They were hospital sick and I guess here we amputate rather than wait for gangrene to set in.

TheDrsDocMartens · 08/06/2021 22:25

There was a Broadway actor who lost a leg to Covid (& later died), www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/ maybe amputation is preventing gangrene?

QioiioiioQ · 08/06/2021 22:42

These are complications arising from lack of medical care and other circumstances present in India

Enough4me · 08/06/2021 22:50

Medication to fight covid can also lead to complications. I believe the black fungus issue in India is due to the use of steroids to fight covid.

Also, DNA & immune systems vary leading to the varied responses to the virus.

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2021 08:27

Undiagnosed diabetes (and diabetes generally) are linked to gangrene. There is much more undiagnosed diabetes (and uncontrolled diabetes) in India than elsewhere in the world.

In addition to this one of India's problems is the ratio of doctors/nurses to patients. So even if you are getting hospital care, the standard of it maynot be that good and things are more likely to go untreated until they reach a critical stage.

So gangrene isn't something I'd be concerned about in the uk. Its possible but there are lots of reasons why its unlikely to get to that stage.

As for hearing loss. Its possible with ordinary head colds and flu. The key is to get any kind of infection seen to early and not to ignore ear infections.

Getting worked over this because there was a story in the newspaper shows a marked lack of understanding of comparitive risk and underlying causes of health issues (whether they are related to covid or not).

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/06/2021 14:38

"He is 75.

^Old people die or get ill - the latter in his case. If it hadn't been covid, it would have been something else that did something to his weak elderly body"

Just wow^

Yeah absolutely! I know plenty of sprightly 70 year olds. Neither weak or particularly elderly. They go hiking and do active sports.