Who's currently cancelling their holiday to Portugal then?

[diggingatrench]

@Needanewhat

Also a major glaring problem here is that children haven't had it, and children are a major source of spread at the moment (schools).

But those at risk of getting seriously ill or dying are now protected. So we need to just deal with the fact that it's still out there but not overwhelming the NHS or killing people I'm large swathes.

*in

@SavageBeauty73

It's a pandemic. I don't get why anyone is booking a holiday abroad. It's a fragile situation not helped by our shit government

Apart from the vaccine programme and the furlough scheme and all the finanial help available to small businesses and £billions to the arts and heritage industry. Absolutely, what have the Romans done of us ?.

But the majority of those not yet vaccinated won't get very sick and need hospitalisation. Thus, the NHS is protected and so is granny. So why can't we get on with getting back to normal?

The Delta variant is more transmissible and seems likely to cause illness in younger people. It was never just about granny.

Even if a majority is protected (and it isn't - we don't have a majority fully vaccinated), a minority can still be a huge number in a virus that can grow exponentially, and consequently the NHS is not protected.

Don't know why any1 booked Togo in the first place it's no secret there was risk off this happening.

@deathbypostitnote

But the majority of those not yet vaccinated won't get very sick and need hospitalisation. Thus, the NHS is protected and so is granny. So why can't we get on with getting back to normal?

The Delta variant is more transmissible and seems likely to cause illness in younger people. It was never just about granny.

Even if a majority is protected (and it isn't - we don't have a majority fully vaccinated), a minority can still be a huge number in a virus that can grow exponentially, and consequently the NHS is not protected.

Well, then I guess we are all totally doomed.

For adults it is easy enough to decide not to travel, you know.... mature reflection and a sensible approach to risk assessment. Those who want/need to visit elderly or ill relatives are in a different category to those wishing to spend a week on a sunbed.

Now think of some of the posts here, presumably all are over 18. I cannot believe the stamping of feet going on, I would expect that from the kids! But children are very resilient and as long as they are entertained and treated in holiday mode anywhere, they are happy enough. The adults though..... oh my word.

Apart from anything else I don't fancy queuing in an airport, sitting on a plane, same other end all masked up etc. Nope, only those who need to see loved ones should consider travelling for the time being. Just my view and I can see all sides, the travel industry, hospitality, a badly needed break in the sun or wherever, all of it. But sometimes a sensible bit of forward thinking is needed to avoid disappointment and the stress of everything changing in a Delta minute!

For this year anyway. Good luck to those who make it on hols unscathed, and hopefully with more or less full vaccination next year, it is chocks away.

Anyone who thought vaccines were our ticket to freedom must be feeling very silly now

Need all adult population vaccinated, not there yet. Also we now have a highly transmissible, more severe, variant able to partly escape vaccines. Govt did nothing at all to prevent either importing it, or even preventing it getting established as track, trace still not fit for purpose. Also the Govt did not follow SAGE and IndieSAGE advice on the need for comprehensive border protections, focusing on controlling the pandemic, and the delta variant aggressively.

I kind of regret getting vaccinated.

Why did I bother?

@Malteser71

I kind of regret getting vaccinated.

Why did I bother?

Me too.

'kind of regret getting vaccinated. Why did I bother?'

Haven't you noticed we aren't in lockdown anymore? There will of course be problems regarding overseas travel as rates fluctuate.

As I said on the very first page I never fly and don't go abroad, but gracious me I can find an ounce of sympathy for those who had booked. The "told you so" attitude is not a good look.

..and hopefully with more or less full vaccination next year, it is chocks away.

I'm afraid there are very real worries being expressed tonight in other places that next year there won't be many British travel companies/British airlines/ British aircraft to be "unchocked" if the government policy with regard to travel this summer continues to be one of "go..., don't go,.... go... err ....don't go"

You bothered to protect yourself and others

@SavageBeauty73

It's a pandemic. I don't get why anyone is booking a holiday abroad. It's a fragile situation not helped by our shit government

Yep exactly this.

We aren’t in lockdown anymore in the UK, and finally our vaccines seem to be making a difference. No one should be travelling all over the world right now. We’re in a very delicate situation.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

This whole situation is an utter, utter farce. I don’t know how the Government have got the nerve to show their collective face.

What exactly do you want them to do? Everyone knows the risks of booking a holiday with Covid still rife. It’s not complicated - you can go wherever as long as you as long as you can test and isolate if required.

People who are in Portugal having a lovely holiday are presumably happy ( as long as their back by next week). Others will have the choice to go and isolate or cancel.

You are not 'imprisoned in your home'.........hyperbole, anyone?

You most definitely are - someone sent round on the first day to check up on you, and then daily phone calls. Admittedly it's all a bit of a farce because with a call on a mobile you could be answering from anywhere, but then you don't know when you will get another knock on the door.

If you don't believe me, try returning from an amber list country, that you went to for a legitimate reason, and for which you had very little contact with anyone outside a small circle of known people. Therefore extremely unlikely to be incubating Covid.

Ps further to above

twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1399983667720634369?s=21

Boris. Indian Variant. Modi. Crap Quarantine. Nuff Said.

He kicked out Theresa May may he rot in hell.

They’re not their.

This whole situation is an utter, utter farce. I don’t know how the Government have got the nerve to show their collective face.

Or they are doing their best to respond to an ever evolving situation in a timely but proportionate manner. There was no way they could know what would happen two months ago, in exactly the same way we don't know what the situation may be like in august.

Anyone who booked a foreign holiday this year was an idiot and I speak as a key worker married to a frontline key worker who really bloody wants to go away. We had 4 foreign holidays cancelled last year and I'm certainly not booking one in the middle of such uncertainty

@AfternoonToffee

As I said on the very first page I never fly and don't go abroad, but gracious me I can find an ounce of sympathy for those who had booked. The "told you so" attitude is not a good look.

Do you have sympathy for those who booked last years holiday pre pandemic, who had the choice of deferring it to this year or losing all their money?

That is the situation a lot of people are in right now, me included.

Seriously, I cannot believe that some people ONLY had the vaccine in expectation of being able to go on holiday abroad and are now saying they wish they hadn't bothered. I think I must live on a different planet.

I am so proud and thankful for all of the scientists and medical teams who worked so hard to get vaccines out there for us. Those vaccines are playing a critical role in giving us back more of our normal lives. My life is immeasurably richer now than it was during lockdown. I am so happy that I have had the opportunity to have had both vaccines. It is one of the very few things the UK has got right.

And then I read posters here saying they wish they hadn't bothered getting the vaccine because they can't yet go on holiday. There are people in many parts of the world who are utterly desperate to have that vaccine. How self absorbed and selfish some people are.

@Needanewhat

the reason so many people have taken the vaccine (more than half the UK population) is because the government sold them the idea that this was the way back to normality, I've heard Boris say it. They (the government) oversold it, lockdown in Jan was to allow for the vaccine role out, now what, it's rolled out and we still can't do anything?

It IS the road back to normality but not everyone has had both doses yet.

Dear goodness, how hard is that to understand?!?!

You'll be better off banging your head against a brick wall!

Seriously, I cannot believe that some people ONLY had the vaccine in expectation of being able to go on holiday abroad and are now saying they wish they hadn't bothered. I think I must live on a different planet.

Oh come one. No one had the vaccine only to have a holiday abroad. But it was very much sold to those of us who are not vulnerable that NOT ONLY would we be protecting the NHS and grannies, but we'd also get most of our freedoms, including travel, back.