What’s happens when we’re all vaccinated....

[Backjlack]

One all adults are vaccinated (with both doses) what happens?

Will it then go back to the start of offering boosters in vulnerability order?

Will the boosters be the same vaccine that you’ve been given as your first and second dose?

Does anyone actually know?

Interested to hear opinions.

Haven’t rtft but I reckon after two vaccinations are done we are back to pretty much normal with boosters each year to adjust to variants.

You could have been asymptomatic MaxNormal. I know people who had zero symptoms with it and only knew due to random tests.

I’ve got my 2nd vaccine next week. I’m seriously considering not going. Why should I? When others aren’t prepared to do it and share the same outcome as those doing our civic duty.

Yes to same order I don’t see why not

@MajorMakeover

You could have been asymptomatic MaxNormal. I know people who had zero symptoms with it and only knew due to random tests.

I’ve got my 2nd vaccine next week. I’m seriously considering not going. Why should I? When others aren’t prepared to do it and share the same outcome as those doing our civic duty.

You do what you want. I'll be getting my second vaccination when it's scheduled. Other people can make their own decisions.

@MajorMakeover have your vaccine to protect you, or don't, it's up to you.
But to save your wounded feelings of civic duty, I'm not having it due to my health history.

We will never all be vaccinated. There are some that cannot be. Then there are the scared shitless about vaccines because they believe all sorts of crap about them. Then there are the ones anti vax but have no answers to how to get out of the mess without vaccines. Then there are a huge number of privileged in the first world that worry about anything and everything, some appear to get off on their worries and enjoy nothing better than dragging others into a spiral of worry and anxiety....the new plaque is mh related

Haven’t rtft but I reckon after two vaccinations are done we are back to pretty much normal with boosters each year to adjust to variants.

But what I don't get is that it has been a massive logistical effort to vaccinate the entire population (and it's ongoing) - is it realistic that this will be done every year or even every six months depending on how long the vaccines are found to be effective for? At some point surely we will have to live with covid in the younger population and only vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable? Maybe I am wrong but I can't see it will be sustainable to rollout such a mass vaccination of the whole population on a regular basis, taking into account all the vaccine centres, volunteers etc.

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Those of you who choose not to have the vaccine, can I ask you if you feel any guilt at all that the 21 June date will be scrapped?

Nope, not in the slightest. What with not having had covid during this particular time period and therefore not being responsible for spread in any way at all.

No, no guilt at all. It’s not me keeping everyone locked up. If I was ‘ world king’ like Boris said he wanted to be, I wouldn’t have had everyone locked up like he and his government have done
We did what was asked of us, three weeks to protect the nhs and we did that
We didn’t agree to the carnage in the care homes, children’s education ruined, the isolation of elderly and disabled , vital services and health treatments cancelled...I mean when since dental surgeries first opened could you not get to see a dentist.
The whole month of June I was in agony in last hear with a toothache that inflamed my trigeminal nerve..luckily I know enough about natural health to treat myself and get the pain and infection down and heal and save the tooth...but I’m just incredulous
People were pulling out their teeth in desperation

People have lost jobs, houses, businesses , family members to untreated cancers, heart problems, etc, mental health through the roof
Some people will never recover from this.

It’s been a right shit show and no one in government should be congratulating themselves
What’s been done to us has been horrendous. It’s been war.

I won’t be guilt tripped...My body, my choice . I look after my immune system and hope everyone does the same and if you aren’t you need to research as much as you can because you cannot rely on the government to keep you safe

[quote MaxNormal]@MajorMakeover have your vaccine to protect you, or don't, it's up to you.
But to save your wounded feelings of civic duty, I'm not having it due to my health history.[/quote]
Me neither and neither is dh whose blood clot in his brain has had detrimental consequences for both of us

@MajorMakeover

You could have been asymptomatic MaxNormal. I know people who had zero symptoms with it and only knew due to random tests.

I’ve got my 2nd vaccine next week. I’m seriously considering not going. Why should I? When others aren’t prepared to do it and share the same outcome as those doing our civic duty.

I thought we’d already agreed that asymptomatic was healthy

Or has the advice on that changed again.

So glad I’ve never watched the news.
At least something has kept me sane.

@shewalkslikerihanna I'm sorry to hear of your DH health issues, I can imagine how hard it must be for both of you.

Thank you Max
We make it work

shewalks,

Sorry to hear about your DH. I'm confused as to why you wouldn't get the vaccination. They say it limits the spread of Covid, so why wouldn't you get it to protect him? Surely if everyone who could get the jab, did, then your DH would have less chance of catching it?

I just don't understand the logic of that.

I chose not to get the flu jab three years ago, for the first time in my life I got flu, was hospitalised and took six months to get over it, my lungs are damaged from it. All my colleagues had the jab, it was my choice, so I faced the consequences.

@rosie39forever

*disclaimer...I know nothing But I think boosters will be offered to the people who usually receive the flu vaccine first then who knows.. I did read that if you've received AZ or Johnson and Johnson vaccine for your first and second dose then you can't have another viral vector vaccine you will need to have a MRNA vaccine for your booster, something to do with the vector mutating if you keep having them.

Does anyone actually know?......well the government haven't got a clue so the chances of anyone else guessing what they're going to do is remote at best.

That is not true. There has never been any suggestion of "the vector mutating", it is not an active virus, wherever you got that from you should stop reading anything they say because they are lying to you. There had been suggestions from uninvolved scientists that perhaps immunity to adenovirus vectors might affect efficacy. Trials have shown it doesn't, the third jab actually generated extremely high antibodies. www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/study-shows-astrazeneca-vaccine-works-well-third-booster-ft-2021-05-19/

You could have been asymptomatic MaxNormal. I know people who had zero symptoms with it and only knew due to random tests.

The vaccinated are MORE likely to be asymptomatic, they also appear to think they're invincible and most around me have stopped social distancing and mask wearing so it's highly likely the vaccinated are far more likely to be spreading the virus around. I've thought for ages now that will be the case because from what I've seen and read most vaccinated people don't seem to think they can carry the virus and infect others .

@Zoladrama

You could have been asymptomatic MaxNormal. I know people who had zero symptoms with it and only knew due to random tests.

The vaccinated are MORE likely to be asymptomatic, they also appear to think they're invincible and most around me have stopped social distancing and mask wearing so it's highly likely the vaccinated are far more likely to be spreading the virus around. I've thought for ages now that will be the case because from what I've seen and read most vaccinated people don't seem to think they can carry the virus and infect others .

Vaccinated people are more likely to be asymptomatic than they were before being vaccinated, because they are being protected by the vaccine!! Happily vaccinated people are also 65% less likely to catch covid and 50% less likely to transmit it even if they do catch covid. With vaccinated people being 87.5% less likely to transmit covid, they are definitely less likely to be spreading covid than unvaccinated people.

These are difficult issues. I understand the point of view of both sides even those who (not on here) have said I am a killer as I have chosen so far not to have the vaccine (and am anti the mandatory measures even though I have followed them).

I am pleased we still have the freedom to refuse vaccines even if we are forced into masks against our will. Let us hope mandatory masks can go soon too.

They're recruiting for a booster trial now.
There's a good chance ppl will get a different drug than before.
From the vaccine trial where ppl mixed the first 2 vaccines There's been good antibody response.

@Xenia

The biggest challenge to the NHS is obesity. Perhaps we should refuse NHS treatment for anyone over weight.

Anyway we are where we are with strong views on all sides. I have chosen not to have the vaccine so far for a large number of reasons.

I was hoping masks might go by 21 June but the state seems likely to continue to remove our rights and freedoms.

If you get the virus will you be refused treatment, or is it only fat people who should be refused health care?