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What’s happens when we’re all vaccinated....

120 replies

Backjlack · 31/05/2021 19:05

One all adults are vaccinated (with both doses) what happens?

Will it then go back to the start of offering boosters in vulnerability order?

Will the boosters be the same vaccine that you’ve been given as your first and second dose?

Does anyone actually know?

Interested to hear opinions.

OP posts:
speckledostrichegg · 31/05/2021 21:33

@shewalkslikerihanna

speckledostrichegg I do find it fascinating though how any post on vaccines attracts people who are incredibly anti having it, who then reveal themselves to also be anti COVID suppression policies like masks and lockdown

We did what we had to do.

People have given their all.
Lives have been turned upside down, businesses ruined,

Just how long do you want this to go on for?

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say here?

Just how long do you want this to go on for?

I don't, hence why I'm keen to get vaccinated and am frustrated by people who are refusing vaccination based on misinformation and then repeating it all over social media

speckledostrichegg · 31/05/2021 21:34

@Wherediditgo

Is everyone on this thread pissed?
bank holiday monday Grin
Wherediditgo · 31/05/2021 21:36
Grin

It’s not just this thread either!

chickenyhead · 31/05/2021 21:46

Trying to work out whether I am crazy, or you lot.

Wherediditgo · 31/05/2021 21:49

@chickenyhead

Trying to work out whether I am crazy, or you lot.
I think it’s this lot Grin
ihearttc · 31/05/2021 21:54

I wonder how boosters would work with travel etc if the Government do eventually bring in vaccine passports?

For what it’s worth, I’ve had Covid as has my 16 year old. He was a fit, healthy, active child who was literally never ill. He had “mild covid” in so much that he literally only lost his sense of taste and smell (no cough or temp). 6 months on he is still absolutely shattered and his heart keeps racing. He has done a Long Covid Survey from GOSH which was very enlightening as to how Long Covid affects children.
I’ve had my vaccine and I would give anything to prevent him feeling like this.

LovelyLadyLily · 01/06/2021 00:15

I hope that those who have refused the vaccine ( because they think their lives are far more worthy than anyone else’s) are refused NHS treatment if they contract Covid! Why should the British taxpayer pay for medical treatment for those who refuse to protect themselves?

Gosh, the NHS would have very little to do if they only treated people who didn't in any way cause their own medical problems. From smokers' illnesses to alcohol-related problems, childbirth (that's a choice, right?), any accidents during sport, any accidents during reckless behaviour, any accidents caused by carelessness, all car accidents on non-essential journeys, any weight-related diseases, any diseases caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, any stress-related illnesses if the stress was avoidable (see: having children). Etc!

Im not having my second Covid vaccine as I was given AZ and now it's known not to be safe for my age group. If I'm unlucky enough to get Covid, I'll get the same medical treatment as anyone else, in the NHS that I help pay for in my taxes. Tbh it's the Government's fault that they failed to act quickly enough on the evidence against AZ anyway.

sleepwouldbenice · 01/06/2021 00:29

@speckledostrichegg

I do find it fascinating though how any post on vaccines attracts people who are incredibly anti having it, who then reveal themselves to also be anti COVID suppression policies like masks and lockdown
Amazing coincidence isn't it Stupid is as stupid does And of course we are all sheeples So very predictable
TownTalkJewels · 01/06/2021 00:34

@HopeYourHighHorseBucks

Will you also be turning down NHS treatment if you get sick with Covid

Do smokers, drug takers, obese people, quad bike accidents? (the list goes on) all unavoidable strain on the NHS.

I'm not sure OP. I'm still waiting for it to get to my age group but am curious too.

No, but smokers and drinkers pay massive excise taxes which ultimately help to fund the cost of their treatment.

Lots of research shows smokers and drinkers actually contribute more to the public purse than they take out, for this reason. Not advocating that lifestyle, but it’s interesting.

I wouldn’t be against an NHS tax for vaccine refusers.

Tealightsandd · 01/06/2021 01:03

@ihearttc

I wonder how boosters would work with travel etc if the Government do eventually bring in vaccine passports?

For what it’s worth, I’ve had Covid as has my 16 year old. He was a fit, healthy, active child who was literally never ill. He had “mild covid” in so much that he literally only lost his sense of taste and smell (no cough or temp). 6 months on he is still absolutely shattered and his heart keeps racing. He has done a Long Covid Survey from GOSH which was very enlightening as to how Long Covid affects children.
I’ve had my vaccine and I would give anything to prevent him feeling like this.

I'm so sorry about your ds ihearttc Poor kid. I hope very much that he makes a full recovery. Flowers

We need to increase our vaccine supplies so that we can join the US, UAE, Israel, and Europe in protecting our children. The risk might be lower but with vaccines available it's an unnecessary risk.

harverina · 01/06/2021 01:24

OP I’ve been wondering the same thing - what happens when we are all vaccinated...or if not all then enough of us.

In respect of flu - one of the reasons we got in such a mess with Covid in the first place is because we treated it like a flu outbreak when i reality it is very different to that.

XenoBitch · 01/06/2021 09:28

I hope that those who have refused the vaccine ( because they think their lives are far more worthy than anyone else’s) are refused NHS treatment if they contract Covid! Why should the British taxpayer pay for medical treatment for those who refuse to protect themselves?

The more I see comments like this, the more I am convinced there must be something in the vaccine that causes people to lose their mind.

JacobMarley · 01/06/2021 09:52

The more I see comments like this, the more I am convinced there must be something in the vaccine that causes people to lose their mind

Shame you didn’t quote the whole post Xenobitch. It was a fair comment and one I agree with.

What about when people refuse to protect themselves then go running to the NHS for lifesaving treatment when it all goes tits up. What about all the people that cannot then be given treatment because Covid deniers/antivaxxers clog up the wards?

FlyLight · 01/06/2021 09:53

Worrying isn't it Xeno - this whole thing has really brought out a side to some people that is deeply unpleasant.

FlyLight · 01/06/2021 09:56

Why this assumption that everyone who isn't vaccinated is a) going to catch covid and b) be ill enough to need hospital treatment? For myself and everyone in my age group that I know has had it it was a very mild cold. I can't believe people are advocating refusing hospital treatment, it's grim.

XenoBitch · 01/06/2021 09:58

@JacobMarley

The more I see comments like this, the more I am convinced there must be something in the vaccine that causes people to lose their mind

Shame you didn’t quote the whole post Xenobitch. It was a fair comment and one I agree with.

What about when people refuse to protect themselves then go running to the NHS for lifesaving treatment when it all goes tits up. What about all the people that cannot then be given treatment because Covid deniers/antivaxxers clog up the wards?

You can stomp your feet and say vaccine decliners should be refused treatment for Covid, or have to pay for it, all you want.

The NHS simply does not work like that.

People who decline based on their own Covid risk would most likely not be using the NHS for Covid treatment anyway. It is the top vulnerable groups (you know, the people who have already been vaccinated) that would be the ones in hospital.

Nerdygirl · 01/06/2021 09:59

Totally agree @FlyLight. People have lost all sense of perspective and critical thinking

shewalkslikerihanna · 01/06/2021 10:02

@XenoBitch

I hope that those who have refused the vaccine ( because they think their lives are far more worthy than anyone else’s) are refused NHS treatment if they contract Covid! Why should the British taxpayer pay for medical treatment for those who refuse to protect themselves?

The more I see comments like this, the more I am convinced there must be something in the vaccine that causes people to lose their mind.

Those are most likely tax payers or have been taxpayers who have paid into the system and are entitled to their treatment

It isn’t just for people who live holier than thou lives . The nhs is for everyone.

I certainly don’t begrudge smokers, alcoholics, obese people treatment.

What a horrible society we will live in if this becomes the case.
This wasn’t at you xenobitch btw
I can see you quoted someone else’s post.

shewalkslikerihanna · 01/06/2021 10:05

@FlyLight

Worrying isn't it Xeno - this whole thing has really brought out a side to some people that is deeply unpleasant.
So very true. I don’t understand it at all.
XenoBitch · 01/06/2021 10:09

@FlyLight

Why this assumption that everyone who isn't vaccinated is a) going to catch covid and b) be ill enough to need hospital treatment? For myself and everyone in my age group that I know has had it it was a very mild cold. I can't believe people are advocating refusing hospital treatment, it's grim.
Don't you know, after everyone has been offered the vaccine, Covid will mutate into a form where it acts like a heat seeking missile and hones in on people who declined the vaccine. People who can't have the vaccine have a force shield around them, and it will bounce off it. The infected will then all straight away have severe symptoms where they will need to be immediately put on a ventilator... but the NHS staff and equipment all freeze and refuse to work if such a patient comes near them.
shewalkslikerihanna · 01/06/2021 10:12

If I told you what I pay to protect myself , my health and my immune system ..well you know what comes next
Three winter holidays abroad for the sunshine and to boost my Vit d levels
£100 a month on osteopath and other treatments
The rest..well over £100 on herbs and good quality supplements
Yes that’s every month
I missed my December holiday as the lab lost my test results and our March trip was cancelled and I really felt it healthwise...
But I didn’t get covid.
I haven’t had covid.
Haven’t even had a cold...and yes I have underlying health conditions
I just take good care of myself.

chickenyhead · 01/06/2021 10:19

I had the vaccine, I support people's right not to too, but I cannot buy in to the insanity of some of the reasoning. I don't have to either, except where it is preached and stuff is twisted. It is becoming more and more difficult in society to claw your way through the jungle of spin and lies to get to actual facts.

I'm used to government spin, media bias etc, but now the whole world is like it.

The NHS is a privilege available to all in this country and any who need it should be able to access it freely. Many people are doing personal risk assassessments in deciding not to be vaccinated, and I don't blame them.

GiveMeNovocain · 01/06/2021 10:20

@speckledostrichegg

I do find it fascinating though how any post on vaccines attracts people who are incredibly anti having it, who then reveal themselves to also be anti COVID suppression policies like masks and lockdown
I'm anti lockdown and had a vaccine. They're 2 completely separate things. I certainly don't think we should have a 2 tier system based on vaccination status or weigh people's soul before the NHS treats them. I also don't generalise about people.
Xenia · 01/06/2021 10:20

The biggest challenge to the NHS is obesity. Perhaps we should refuse NHS treatment for anyone over weight.

Anyway we are where we are with strong views on all sides. I have chosen not to have the vaccine so far for a large number of reasons.

I was hoping masks might go by 21 June but the state seems likely to continue to remove our rights and freedoms.

Chamonixshoopshoop · 01/06/2021 10:22

There aren't that many vaccine refusers, I know on here it might seem like it. 78% of UK pop now vaccinated and they haven't got going on the 20s really yet.
Not the point of the post, but just wanted to offer some optimism. We've one of the best vaccine uptake rates in the world.