Dh has been told to get back to the office

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For a minimum of 2 days per week.
Is this an end to WFH?

I think two days in the office sounds pretty standard now, DIL and DD are both expecting this split of office/WFH.

I've never left the office

I am praying to all the dogs in heaven that I can carry on w f h full time.

I have always detested office working and find it impossible to cut out the noise and chit chat. My productivity has soared and I am producing excellent work - in fact I've won two awards over the last year.

My physical and mental health is better than it's ever been. Heart health is now excellent and I have lost two and a half stone as no commuting means I now have time to cook from scratch, exercise properly during the day, and since April, work out in the gym five times a week. Last winter was the first I have ever gone through without experiencing SAD. I can also, to an extent plan my work pattern around my body clock which in turn has led to much improved sleep and lowered stress levels.

It's been absolutely life changing.

[quote year5teacher]@PrincessNutNuts presumably you’re not still homeschooling though, are you?[/quote]
And yet my boss hasn't demanded that I return to the office.

Because there's still a pandemic on, and that's what WFH is about.

The millions working from home make it safer for those who can't.

WFH reduces average contacts massively and makes things safer for everyone.

^^Some people have simply not been wfh - they’ve been at home (or abroad somewhere) doing nothing resembling work. And being paid for it. Hence bad productivity and horrendous customer service everywhere. There’s usually no excuse but now they’ve found one - Covid - and by heck they’re not giving up their skiving days without a hooman rights / mental health fight 🙄. Mostly people will be told to get back to the office at least 3 days a week or lose their jobs.

I am working from home until at least September and DH is working from home indefinitely too.

We have both worked hard and both feel we have been more productive WFH than at work. DH has saved time on a lengthy drive and money on fuel. We usually manage to meet up for lunch but otherwise we work in separate rooms.

Bad customer service in the form of not answering calls is often caused by the company concerned not investing in the necessary technology.

Not the call-takers.

I don't live in the UK and we are back in the office 1 or 2 days a week. I simply agreed a day with my team when we would all try and be available in the office (barring external meetings). If some of us need to work on things at other times we meet either at the office or away from it at another venue if the space can't accommodate.

Incidentally that's the model we used pre covid as well with a team full of different working patterns, and it's fine. Treat people like adults and they behave like it (and if they don't you've got bigger problems).

We also have a 4.5 day working week, with Friday finish at 1. This is amazing and should be standard, it makes such a difference.

I wfh and told cant come back until every adult has been offered the jab and social distancing ends...

@PrincessNutNuts Not sure why you’re explaining the fact that there’s a pandemic to me when I’ve never challenged that...

I’m just saying that people should be more open about the fact that they enjoy wfh and not just mask it in “we are so much more productive!” It’s ok to have enjoyed it and not want to go back.

It obviously depends on the job and company but both my partner and I have negotiated remote working going forward (work from home). We will be expected to visit the office (or a new co working space) once a quarter. We asked for it, held strong and I was pleasantly surprised that they agreed! But we have proven over the last 18 months that we are more productive and are far happier. Now we can live where we want on same wage (London). We work for different multinational software companies. Hopefully the future provides more flexibility and choice for people, wether that’s work from home or office based.

[quote year5teacher]@PrincessNutNuts Not sure why you’re explaining the fact that there’s a pandemic to me when I’ve never challenged that...

I’m just saying that people should be more open about the fact that they enjoy wfh and not just mask it in “we are so much more productive!” It’s ok to have enjoyed it and not want to go back.[/quote]
I was replying to your comment:

Let’s not pretend the reluctance to get back to the office isn’t anything at all to do with the fact that you get a longer lie in and access to your own fridge all day.

Let’s not pretend the reluctance to get back to the office isn’t anything at all to do with the fact that you get a longer lie in and access to your own fridge all day.

I'm not reluctant to get back in the office & have being doing a hybrid model for a few months. But I regularly wfh before as some tasks I prefer to do with less interruptions just like some tasks I need to do on site. I wake at the same time but my commute on work days is only a 10 min walk. I miss the on site catering & on days wfh pop around to the deli - which has done amazing well over lockdown.
Why are so many people bitter about wfh & assume it's cause people are lazy?

If I could wfh I would definitely enjoy a longer lie in and having snacks available! Who wouldn’t?! There’s nothing wrong with it, it just seems disingenuous when people deny that the increased convenience is absolutely nothing to do with it. I don’t think I would suit full time wfh personally but if I could I’d work four days. I didn’t say anything about being lazy - there’s this weird defensiveness when anyone suggests that people might actually enjoy wfh because it’s frankly less hassle in a practical sense than having to travel to an office and sit there all day.

I didn’t say anything about being lazy - there’s this weird defensiveness when anyone suggests that people might actually enjoy wfh because it’s frankly less hassle in a practical sense than having to travel to an office and sit there all day.

But you didn't say you understood why people who have long commutes or are waiting for a delivery or want to home cook would prefer the practicalities of wfh. You said Let’s not pretend the reluctance to get back to the office isn’t anything at all to do with the fact that you get a longer lie in and access to your own fridge all day.

I agree that people enjoy wfh, on the days I do it I enjoy it. I just don't enjoy it because of a longer lie in or access to my fridge.

Well maybe it’s just me that would enjoy those things, then.

Which is fine, just maybe don't extrapolate your feelings to the rest of the population.

Oh my god 😂 You are so bloody defensive.

I don't care how close to my fridge I am. I'm at home to work, not stuff my face.

Yes, I find it convenient. Yes, I enjoy being able to sleep in longer than 5.45am. Which is why I found myself a job where I WFH permanently.

My deliveries always seem to come when I'm on Teams / a client call, so I might as well be elsewhere! 🙄😂

I'm not at all, just trying to help you. It's honestly a good lesson to learn, that not everyone thinks the same as you. 😘

Our desk-based staff all have the choice of full return, blended or remaining wfh.

Our non desk-based staff are part-furloughed, part-working on site.

I think when my breakfast usually consists of a granola bar that I eat while running back from the printer, the idea of being able to actually eat something nice/comparatively slowly is quite nice. When I had an inset day wfh that’s what stood out to me (I do have a proper commute though) and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. I think that people should feel ok to say that it’s more convenient in a practical sense, and not feel as though that means they’re admitting to being “lazy” in any way.
I don’t think wfh is any easier in terms of the actual workload - if anything there’s a danger of the work hours blurring into being “on call” all the time.

DH has an international team WFH has increased his productivity as now the team is so used to using teams and isnt wasting hours and hours on planes to try to meet in different locations. He expects it will remain WFH with a v occasional return to the office for some time!

To add I personally only plan to go to the office when I need to meet people to work collaboratively. Otherwise I plan to carry on wfh.