Cummings evidence today

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Anyone listening?

What if he is right though? That despite the way the papers were painting it DC was trying to stop the crazy decisions of Boris?
I am no fan but I remember joining the local council and being horrified they were paying 400% more on stationery than I could buy it for on the open market, horrified that my highly paid boss got sloshed every lunchtime, slept in his office then drove home, and speechless that incompetence meant you were promoted.

@DogsSausages

No one can say he is not an intelligent man. He gained a First at Oxford. He looks uncomfortable and unconvincing. Crackers.

I’m sure he isn’t stupid, but he is not the Machiavellian genius he seems to think he is, or he wouldn’t come across as such a needy twat.

No I think Johnson is pretty teflon viz. the local election results, the vaccine rollout, the lockdown restrictions easing.

The cabinet has collective responsibility, they are supposed to agree to and take decisions together, cabinet government is not about individuals.

I don't think most of the cabinet were ever involved in the decision making. Mr Johnson would never ask a woman to be involved in something he considered important. Only one woman minister has ever led the Downing Street briefings, and that was to be the bearer of bad news.

Strange shape,
. Yes I remember the day they said they didn't need to test with total horror, did valance get mentioned at all?
I always felt he was to blame for much of the horror as well.

@Morfin the problem with that narrates that DC put BJ in number 10. He had plenty of access to him during the Brexit campaign, and must surely have been aware of what kind of person he was. It’s not like Boris kept any of it a secret, it was his USP.

@ICanSmellSummerComing

Strange shape, . Yes I remember the day they said they didn't need to test with total horror, did valance get mentioned at all? I always felt he was to blame for much of the horror as well.

Yes he did a lot.

All very positive, stood out as one of the few with glowing comments

Plus KB and a few others

^ “narrative is that”

Fucking autocorrect

Personally I had no problem at all with his trip to Durham. Two parents with Covid and a four year old child , going to grandparents was the most sensible thing to do. I’d have done exactly the same

'If DC thinks Johnson is unfit to be PM (he said it was 'crackers' that someone like Johnson was PM) why on earth did he help him get re-elected? The fact he directs all the criticism at Hancock and Johnson looks sus to me'

Yes surely he knew Johnson's ability before becoming his number one cheerleader?

It was an audience with Cummings, he seemed to love being the centre of attention. Hancock of course needs scrutiny but the criticism all seemed very personal and oddly selective. As the PMs former senior advisor his apologies and 'I should've done more waaaah!' Seemed very unconvincing and a bit of an act.

I'd call him a weasel but weasels are quite cute.

Some of of the rose medics for things wrong, which one then?. Surely not whitty?

They wont be held accountable though, I mean, what does 'held accountable' even mean?

Indeed.

As long as the newspapers back them and people vote for them, there can be no accountability.

But Cummings made another good point today regarding a political system that leaves voters with a choice between Corbyn and Boris. Two, intellectually extremely challenged individuals. Why?? In fact, if you look through most of the HoC, there's very few people in there you'd regard as intelligent. But, why would an intelligent person WANT to get involved in the quite ridiculous world of UK politics?

Thank you for that explanation strangeshapedpotato. I was watching Dr John Campbell (retired Nurse teacher) on YouTube at the time and he actually looked close to tears after that first press conference from the PM.

why would an intelligent person WANT to get involved in the quite ridiculous world of UK politics?
and this is how the UK ends up in the toilet:( no intelligent capable accomplished person would want to stain themselves by being a politician so all we get is sharks and shysters degrading the country until it is ripe for authoritarianism

@ICanSmellSummerComing

Strange shape, . Yes I remember the day they said they didn't need to test with total horror, did valance get mentioned at all? I always felt he was to blame for much of the horror as well.

I don't know if Cummings mentioned him.

I don't know what part Valance played in early proceedings, except I did hear that he'd said to Boris, AFTER the Wuhan lockdown, that the virus was probably never going to make it to the UK, and even if it did, it wasn't particularly harmful.

I could never understand the logic tbh, that wasn't just the UK, but pretty much most of the West, that having witnessed events in Wuhan, so few countries acted (Germany and ??). Once it escaped China, it was ABSOLUTELY inevitable that the virus would spread all around the world - the only question was how long it would take. Did western countries simply assume that it was all China's 2nd world healthcare system that was to blame, and faced with Western facilities, the virus would be of no consequence??

@PickAChew

I'd call him a weasel but weasels are quite cute.

Snake? 🐍

@PickAChew

I'd call him a weasel but weasels are quite cute.

you say that...but they look like snakes with fur and legs to me👀

Seeing as Sunak is directly responsible for many deaths due to the ridiculous Eat Out To Spread It About scheme then he has blood on his hands as well. The whole lot of them should be in jail.

'If DC thinks Johnson is unfit to be PM (he said it was 'crackers' that someone like Johnson was PM) why on earth did he help him get re-elected? The fact he directs all the criticism at Hancock and Johnson looks sus to me

He's not a tory is he? I don't think he cares about Boris, or has ever cared about him or the party. It was purely and simply a job and a challenge.

From the Guardian:

“He has always engaged in a battle against a largely imaginary elite conspiracy to hold back iconoclastic innovators of the kind he sees in the shaving mirror each morning”

Do we think DC has drunk his own Kool-Aid and really believes this? From here, as a PP said, it looks more like “lying scumbag A says lying scumbag B is lying”.

But I have met a lot of rich tech investors who genuinely believe they are Elon Musk, and not some posh twit in red trousers with too much money.

With Gavin Williamson leading the way to the prison van. Goodness knows how many teachers and parents he’s killed.

@strangeshapedpotato yes I believe all that. But unfortunately China, Italy and WHO were telling the UK what to do. We could see what was coming, but we ignored it.

I loved Hunt asking Cummings if he really had thought it was a good idea to test his eyesight by driving with his son in the car. 😁

@newnortherner111

The cabinet has collective responsibility, they are supposed to agree to and take decisions together, cabinet government is not about individuals.

I don't think most of the cabinet were ever involved in the decision making. Mr Johnson would never ask a woman to be involved in something he considered important. Only one woman minister has ever led the Downing Street briefings, and that was to be the bearer of bad news.

Although Kate Bingham?

He likes to run things on a "mateocracy" basis. As does swathes of the rest of the cabinet.