Is anyone else starting to think this will never end?

[GoddessKali]

Without name calling or turning this into a slanging match, please can we discuss our ‘fuck shit dread worst outcome’ thoughts please?

I have this awful impending sense of doom. I can’t shake it off.
As I’m writing this, I realise it doesn’t matter what each of our beliefs are around the current situation as none of us really know what’s going on.

However I do know my gut instinct is screaming at me something awful is coming.
Does anyone else have this or am I going mad?!

Oh and sorry to clarify, when I mean this will never end, I mean until a large catastrophe..... it feels like to me we’re building towards something, a giant storm of our whole way of life I guess??

My worst nightmare is that the government allow covid to become endemic at a high level of transmission, variants continue to get better at infecting us and our children's grandparents, and all the people we know with a medical condition are never out of danger.

My hope is that some time during Lockdown 4, 5, or 6, we decide enough is enough and implement an effective covid strategy.

@PrincessNutNuts

My worst nightmare is that the government allow covid to become endemic at a high level of transmission, variants continue to get better at infecting us and our children's grandparents, and all the people we know with a medical condition are never out of danger.

I don’t think this is that bad a scenario given we already know it’s going nowhere.

I want it over @RedcurrantPuff.

We need a proactive government to get covid done.

Not this shower who've kept us in restrictions for 12 months out of 13.

@PrincessNutNuts

I want it over *@RedcurrantPuff*.

We need a proactive government to get covid done.

Not this shower who've kept us in restrictions for 12 months out of 13.

They’re shit aren’t they. Why people believe Scotland are actually doing any better is beyond me too.

Agree that the news today was depressing and can totally see why people feel goomy/frightened.

We just don't know what'll happen with the variant and uncertainty can be terrifying.

I'm going to try to enjoy the next month or so, cautiously, and be prepared that there may be further restrictions at some point this year.

Agree the government are shit and I wish we'd completely closed borders from the outset.

Im beginning to feel this way. It's like two steps forward and ten steps back. We should have done an Australia and shut the airports months ago. I do however feel very sorry for those (inc myself) who do have family in another country. If this is the price of foreign holidays, for the moment I'd rather do without to have a little bit more freedom. What is mental health going to be like here, after all this your in Lockdown then your not, your in Lockdown, then your not. I'd rather the PM said nothing than give us all these empty promises.

“It would be great to get some doctors / specialists on AMA..... but then I guess we’d never know if they were genuine or making it up”

OP check out Reddit’s Ask Me Anything subreddit. They verify everyone who takes part, and there have been scientists and doctors answering COVID questions on there.

Hope you’re ok, I have severe anxiety too and it’s horrendous

Yesterday SAGE told the government that they think the Indian variant is 50% more transmissible than B117 (which was 70% more transmissible than original covid) and that not enough people are vaccinated yet to stop a third wave which could be worse than April 2020 or January 2021 without non-pharmaceutical interventions

And the government shrugged and carried on with opening up and taking away NPIs.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Which then reminds me of Venezuela- which used to be know previously as the worlds happiest nation

I've been living in Latin America for nearly fifty years and I have never heard anyone refer to Venezuela as the world's happiest nation. When Hugo Chavez was elected, 85% of the population was living in extreme poverty. I can't say whether Maduro is good, bad or indifferent, but let us not reinvent history.

This is a total doom thread
Have positivity
Is anyone one glad that Monday is happening
Cases may rise but as long as people are not hospitalised or dying FROM Covid
We need to live

With all the spread going on in India at the moment the next "Indian variant" in a few months is going to be a doozy isn't it?

Maybe the next U.K. variant will out-compete it?

For those asking about genuine views from good doctors, could I recommend looking briefly at the Dr John Campbell channel on YouTube?

He is very calm and balanced (though obviously frustrated by UK Government policy at times) and does regular, thoughtful, updates and responses.

Mankind has been through far worse and many times.

@MrsTroutfireVII

Mankind has been through far worse and many times.

Not everyone comes through I though do they?

We've lost 150,000 already.

Not everyone comes through I though do they?

We've lost 150,000 already.

We lost 25 million in the black death. 100,000 in the Battle of the Somme alone. There are still too many humans on the planet and there will be significantly more in 100 years.

Mankind always comes through it.

My annoyance is that people are either all doom or don't give a fuck and break all the rules
No they're not, the vast majority in reality life are somewhere in the middle follow the rules but are pretty fed up with it all and not terrified. Only on places like mumsnet the extreme opinions, on both ends of the spectrum, are expressed. Because nobody is going to bother commenting on a thread saying "i have no strong feelings either way about masks", for example.

FWIW I'm in the "I don't give a fuck about covid but still follow the rules (except I did hug my grandparents)" camp.

In the US it's just been announced you can go maskless indoors if vaccinated, bar some exceptions like flights. Even Walmart has announced no masks in stores if vaccinated. So it's beginning to feel like the end here, 14 months on. I don't think you are too far behind. The vaccines will keep up with the variants and we will get an annual
shot I expect, just like flu which mutates annually. I've always had a lot of admiration for the NHS, being British, but there's a lot to be said for the healthcare infrastructure here and how fast the vaccine has been rolled out. There is hope.
And yes, not withstanding the tragedy in India and other parts of the world, but if we are referring to the Uk I believe you can be optimistic.

@MrsTroutfireVII

Not everyone comes through I though do they?

We've lost 150,000 already.

We lost 25 million in the black death. 100,000 in the Battle of the Somme alone. There are still too many humans on the planet and there will be significantly more in 100 years.

Mankind always comes through it.

Well covid's liked more British civilians than the blitz but none of these events are really relevant are they.

People survived Hiroshima and the Nazi death camps.

What's your point here?

What's your point here?

What I said. That I disagree it will never end because it always does.

I dont expect to be wearing a face mask in a decade's time.

God I hope not!

No I don’t agree with your OP from a covid point of view OP.

I think the vaccines will be effective against the new variant and that while no country is out of the woods while covid still rages in the world, we are over our personal worst (UK wise).

I feel ashamed that rich countries are not doing more to help poor countries out of this however, and yes the government here have been and continue to be appalling in many ways.

The real impending catastrophe IMO is climate change however, and it’s depressing to see governments worldwide take such ineffective action in the name of not wanting to consider how we could globally live differently in order to protect our most precious asset - the planet we live on.

We need to follow the Australian model, close all borders. Vaccinate the population, and limit the reopening to those with fully vaccinated populations next year.

We need to stop with the half way house model, it is simply not working.

@Coyoacan

Which then reminds me of Venezuela- which used to be know previously as the worlds happiest nation

I've been living in Latin America for nearly fifty years and I have never heard anyone refer to Venezuela as the world's happiest nation. When Hugo Chavez was elected, 85% of the population was living in extreme poverty. I can't say whether Maduro is good, bad or indifferent, but let us not reinvent history.

Hardly making it up am I??