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So angry at the Government this evening

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Moonme · 14/05/2021 19:08

I’m SO mad. I haven’t been on this board for months and I was feeling really optimistic about life feeling like it was returning to normal.
It is criminal that they have let this variant in. It’s literally ground hog day. Playing politics with public health to do trade deals (because of bloody Brexit) with India.
I know there is hope that the vaccines will do there jobs but we shouldn’t be in this position. This wasn’t inevitable. Arggh so cross

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HeadIsFucked · 15/05/2021 00:49

Nope, just need a few weeks to make sure the variant does not evade vaccines.

While this makes sense on th face of it, previous lockdowns have been touted as 'just a few weeks', and look how that turned ot. People no longer believe its just a few weeks, sadly. As I do think one of the 'ways out', should the vaccine stop working for some random reason, would be regular short lockdowns. But..no trust there now, at all.

PrincessNutNuts · 15/05/2021 00:52

@Ninefeettall

What has actually been done to improve our health service in the past 14 months? It certainly wasn't giving nurses a cost of living pay increase and making them want to stay in our short-staffed hospitals? We're all sitting home and losing businesses and education and life experiences and precious time with family to prop up the NHS - but what is actually being done to fix the NHS?!
40 new hospitals and thousands of new nurses were mentioned I believe.

Has anybody seen hide nor hair of any of that.

(Bullshlt fucking useless PR exercise Nightingales don't count.)

freckles20 · 15/05/2021 00:57

@Wheresmybiscuit3

We can’t keep doing this half arsed approach. That’s what’s pissing me off. We either shut down and endure or bloody open up and get on with it. There are always going to be different variants and predominant strains. Always. Covid is here to stay. We have to learn to live with it but we also need to be allowed to LIVE.
I agree.

I'm from Leicester. We never really unlocked. My family and I plus my friends have followed the rules. But we've now come to the limit of what we can cope with and feel we are not able to live like this any longer.

This city needed help, but none was given. We weren't prioritised for anything, just blamed and shunned and forgotten. It certainly didn't feel like we were all in it together and we've been pushed too far.

I can't continue like this, especially when people are allowed abroad to bring the virus back. It makes everything we have sacrificed feel pointless.

Wheresmybiscuit3 · 15/05/2021 01:02

@freckles20 I feel for you. I don’t live that far away from you. It’s bloody terrible what they did to Leicester Flowers

But I can see them doing it again, and again. They never seem to learn Sad

penni00 · 15/05/2021 01:04

The gov really don't care. I got the feeling that Chris Whitty was uncomfortable at this latest briefing, I think he knows what lies ahead.
Boris is at it again

MercyBooth · 15/05/2021 01:11

The way they have treated Leicester is absolutely disgusting.

PrincessNutNuts · 15/05/2021 01:14

@MercyBooth

The way they have treated Leicester is absolutely disgusting.
It is.
Gothichouse40 · 15/05/2021 01:46

I cannot believe the
PM had a planned visit to India, knowing the state the country was in. Im totally fed up of all the false hope, false promises and the general rubbish coming out of 10 Downing St. The only one I trust is Prof. Whitty, the PM is seriously needing to listen to the scientists and less to the money men. Also, shut the damn airports, at least till we know what is going on with the variants. First, we weren't to worry, now it's a variant of concern, well which is it?

PrincessNutNuts · 15/05/2021 01:54

@Gothichouse40

I cannot believe the PM had a planned visit to India, knowing the state the country was in. Im totally fed up of all the false hope, false promises and the general rubbish coming out of 10 Downing St. The only one I trust is Prof. Whitty, the PM is seriously needing to listen to the scientists and less to the money men. Also, shut the damn airports, at least till we know what is going on with the variants. First, we weren't to worry, now it's a variant of concern, well which is it?
And when he had to cancel his visit to India he invited them here - and didn't ask them to quarantine!

A couple of them tested positive while they were here.

I mean for fuck's sake!

Gothichouse40 · 15/05/2021 01:59

Princess, considering many working people have to cope with Zoom/Team/online meetings, why couldn't the PM and the Indian ministers/business people he was to meet? Im not surprised folk are fed up.

MercyBooth · 15/05/2021 02:03

Matt Hancock visiting West Suffolk Hospital "one of the new hospitals we are going to build"

twitter.com/MrsVB/status/1393337979964383237?s=20

How does this even make sense. The utter ineptitude.

OR they are blatantly taking the piss because they think the public are that thiick.

MercyBooth · 15/05/2021 02:04

@Gothichouse40 its the rules for thee but not for me, yet again

PrincessNutNuts · 15/05/2021 02:12

They've totally ignored the conclusions from SAGE's emergency meeting yesterday:

SPI-M-O is therefore confident that B.1.617.2 has a significant growth advantage over the UK’s currently dominant strain, B.1.1.7. The difference in growth rates between B.1.617.2 and B.1.1.7 is consistent with the former having a transmission advantage of more than 50%; this is based on observed growth that has already happened and it is unclear whether this same growth advantage would apply to sustained wider community transmission regionally or nationally. Resolving this question of the applicability of this growth advantage to the wider population will be difficult while the number of cases are small and relatively focussed.
22. Considering this, it is a realistic possibility that this scale of B.1.617.2 growth could lead to a very large increase in transmission. At this point in the vaccine roll out, there are still too few adults vaccinated to prevent a significant resurgence that ultimately could put unsustainable pressure on the NHS, without non-pharmaceutical interventions.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/986709/S12377SPI-M-OConsensussStatement.pdf

PrincessNutNuts · 15/05/2021 05:44

More than a year after this pandemic started our government has just let possibly the worst variant yet waltz into our country through the airports and start spreading in 50 different towns.

Then they did nothing for a few weeks.

They knew it was a danger, they let it in, they did nothing.

And now it's a month later and the government is ignoring SAGE and sticking to the dates not the data.

This would make anyone angry. Surely

lightand · 15/05/2021 06:23

We are very controlled by the government now.
Whether they do things "right", or "wrong".

Dingleydel · 15/05/2021 07:14

@mightyducks

I am also furious, furious that the Directors in public health who wrote to Matt Hancock in February, yes February, telling him if they didn’t prioritise vaccinations in areas of high risk, rates would surge again in those areas , furious that the border controls were so leaky literally hundreds and hundreds of families in Bolton and Blackburn went to Pakistan and India in January , returning home and bringing the variants with them , that should just never have been allowed. Furious that India went on the red list when it was far too late, due to cronyism between the 2 countries. Furious at the exact moment track and trace in local authorities were trying to contact cases coming back from India, the national system didn’t send the contact details through for weeks, so by the time it was received, the quarantine periods had already passed . Furious the independent Sage advice published today, recommending surge vaccinations in The areas with the high rates , has been ignored, again. I could go on ….the Government’s approach to international travel has been completely flawed and it’s people and communities that are now paying the price, the Government threatening local lockdowns when it’s their fault we’re in this position! Absolutely feel for the communities of Bolton and Blackburn, and all the children, sent home from school again this week, bubbles bursting all over the show, we all accept it was an unprecedented situation last year, but a year on the Government is still making the same mistakes, over and over again, they should all hand their heads in shame!
Very Well said.
Doomsdayisstillcoming · 15/05/2021 07:29

@MercyBooth

Matt Hancock visiting West Suffolk Hospital "one of the new hospitals we are going to build" twitter.com/MrsVB/status/1393337979964383237?s=20

How does this even make sense. The utter ineptitude.

OR they are blatantly taking the piss because they think the public are that thiick.

The WSH is a shack. It barely has running water or electricity.

Former BSE resident.

Tumbleweed101 · 15/05/2021 07:39

All international travel should be stopped for a year and should have already been, until all restrictions are lifted domestically.

We need to trust that the vaccines will protect against severe effects and we need to get on with life again otherwise what is the point of the last year and half.

The Zoe app report seems to suggest that the dangerous symtoms that caused lung problems has massively decreased and it is the milder symptoms in active cases now.

frumpety · 15/05/2021 07:46

@freckles20 can I ask what did lockdown in Leicester involve ? What couldn't you do ? Did everyone adhere to the rules and how were they enforced ?

Watapalava · 15/05/2021 07:56

Sage advise based on covid alone

The key word is it 'could' put pressure on

The wider concerns of society have to be balanced and that's the gov job not sage. They weigh it up. Currently the restrictons cant be justified as theres no proof the indian variant evades vaccines or is more deadly

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 15/05/2021 08:04

We just need to properly close the borders. We can not carry on like this. It is literally pointless. We need to get back to normal here, and until we close the borders that simply isn't going to happen. We will have one variant being imported after another.

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 15/05/2021 08:07

One of those variants WILL evade the vaccine, one will is most likely to really make young people seriously ill. I am not sure what the hell we are waiting for?!

We can't go overseas on holiday now anyway, so this is all for the benefit of whom exactly? Borders should be closed immediately, whilst we still have a small chance of containing this outbreak.

User135644 · 15/05/2021 08:10

@awesomekillick

Well the tories won big at the elections last week so the general population seems to like what they're doing. If folks want to vote for incompetence, fuck ups will be the inevitable result.
It was tory mania on here last week.
Summercocktailsinthesnow · 15/05/2021 08:11

I am also concerned about the way this is being handled, it could cause race tensions if families are seen to be able to travel to and forth any country they like, regardless of infection rates and risk to all of us with contagion and variants, and yet everyone else is grounded.

For the sake of the country, for our vaccine progress, the economy and the chance to get back to a proper kind of normal. We need to stop all international travel until next year when we will have a far clearer idea of how safe it is/new variant ability and all the rest.

I am now getting angry, because we are all suffering.