Choosing not to get vaccine

[InnerDiscomfort]

Not looking to start a fight, but interested if you have made the decision not to get the vaccine and have no condition that you know of that would stop you, why not?

Family members abroad have decided not to get the vaccine (Pfizer I think). Vague concerns about it not being safe and/ or tested enough. They both work outside the home and have families. Fairly fit and healthy so unlikely to be seriously affected by COVID, under 50 years of age.

It's not something I agree with but up to them I guess. I'm also unlikely to get ill but had my first vaccine mainly to help stop the spread (and I'd like to go abroad!)

So if you haven't had it, I'm interested in your reasoning if you would care to share.

Oh and in case you havent realised............there is no point trying to blackmail poorer communities with losing things that have already been taken away and been out of reach for a long time, thanks to austerity. You cant blackmail ppl by threatening to take something they already dont have or do.

Yes. This is something that really winds me up on here. All the I don't want to live a life without fancy holidays, meals out, day trips etc. So much ignorance, no idea that millions of people right here in the UK can never afford these things. For many people lockdown life has been no different from normal life, other than perhaps not being allowed to visit people.

For many people lockdown life has been no different from normal life, other than perhaps not being allowed to visit people

Say that and you are someone to be pitied. What a small life you lead. Don’t you want to change it? How can you not go to the theatre, cinema or days out with your children?

No thought that some people don’t have a penny to spare.

Say that and you are someone to be pitied. What a small life you lead. Don’t you want to change it? How can you not go to the theatre, cinema or days out with your children?

Yep, see it on here all the time.

People can have the vaccine or not, but I wish there was far less misinformation being spouted so those who are worried aren’t put off by that.

People who know nothing about the processes of bringing treatments and vaccines to market are confidently stating all sorts of things that are misleading at best.

It is a selfish decision not to have it if you can, as is the case for all vaccines which rely on herd immunity. That doesn’t mean people should rush out and get it but at least be honest with yourself about that. Excusing yourself from that by giving out information that may well stop others from having it, that’s unforgivable for me.

All threads like this do is give voice to that misinformation, and that’s awful too.

Some on here need to read Beccas posts on this page before they start waffling on about community.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4241084-Begging-outside-shops-etc-should-be-stopped?pg=4

It is a selfish decision not to have it if you can, as is the case for all vaccines which rely on herd immunity. That doesn’t mean people should rush out and get it but at least be honest with yourself about that.

I’m not having it. I resent being called selfish but you can think what you like.

@InnerDiscomfort

Not looking to start a fight, but interested if you have made the decision not to get the vaccine and have no condition that you know of that would stop you, why not?

Family members abroad have decided not to get the vaccine (Pfizer I think). Vague concerns about it not being safe and/ or tested enough. They both work outside the home and have families. Fairly fit and healthy so unlikely to be seriously affected by COVID, under 50 years of age.

It's not something I agree with but up to them I guess. I'm also unlikely to get ill but had my first vaccine mainly to help stop the spread (and I'd like to go abroad!)

So if you haven't had it, I'm interested in your reasoning if you would care to share.

Too many people I know have had nasty side effects from both main vaxes I feel at my age I have enough going on in my life healthwise to want to play Russian roulette with something that may cause harm, even just for a few days.

Just this weekend a friend who works in healthcare was great after the first one and was severely ill for a week with her second one as were a lot of her colleagues.

If this had happened after the first one she wouldn’t have had the second one.

Each to their own.
We all need to make our own risk assessments and our decisions.
My dh has had one devastating blood clot that caused a stroke.
He’s not having it either.

Lucaslucas1612

“......it and leads to infertility”

She’s in her 60s ????

[quote MercyBooth]Some on here need to read Beccas posts on this page before they start waffling on about community.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4241084-Begging-outside-shops-etc-should-be-stopped?pg=4[/quote]
I saw that thread but I didn’t open it. I work with people with Korsakoff dementia (and mental health issues regarding alcoholism) and people who have been rescued from trafficking. So I know the complexities of begging. I hope it might be enlightening for some.

I wonder how those who are insisting that everyone should take the vaccine would feel if it was their loved one who was one of the extremely small statistics?

What if you had been the one who convinced your loved one to take it?

What if you had convinced your loved one based on your own fears?

I personally couldn’t live with that. People should make their own choices as they are the ones who will take the risk no matter how small.

@Alexapissoff that must be a stressful job and i bet things have got worse in the last year

@GorestFump - the same questions would arise if you didn't encourage your loved one to take up the vaccine and then they died of complications from covid-19 or flu or even measles... just because they don't agree with vaccination.

It's not for any of us to encourage or discourage others re the vaccine. Everybody should do what they think best without persuasion either way

Covid and vaccine have been around long enough for everyone to know the risk from both.

@whymewhyme

I think it is really unfair how people who do not what the vaccine are treated. I am not having it yet, i will wait till the trials are up in 23, that is my choice to make and people who dont have it shouldn't be villified for wanting to wait. Instead eveyone who has the jab takes the piss and makes them out to be tin foil hat wearing 5g microchip nutters and that simply isnt the case. I'm not anti vax, I've had all my childhood vacinations and I've had my own children vaccinated. I also have the flu jab every year. This vaccine is new, its not like the childhood vaccines we have or the annual flu jab and I don't think there is anything wrong with waiting to wait a little while longer.

Sounds good to me

@BusyEvenForBee
I quite agree with you
I think you’ve made your own risk assessments as you’re well entitled to
And nobody should say or think any different
You do what’s best for you as everyone else should be doing.

[quote MercyBooth]@Alexapissoff that must be a stressful job and i bet things have got worse in the last year[/quote]
Yea they have. Mental health services have always been woefully underfunded. I have an 8 month old so am still on Maternity leave ( and was off sick with HG and complications from 6 weeks pregnant and then Covid restrictions so I’ve not worked during the pandemic) , but I care for and love my service users and colleagues so check in daily, give advice, I can’t keep away. It’s been horrific.

We are about to open up society in all sorts of ways. The Indian variant is increasing at a fast rate and in other countries is hospitalising young people.

The vaccine is a no brainer.

@MrsTroutfire

I only know one person in real life who have said they won’t be getting the vaccine. Unfortunately they are a Covid denying, anti vaxx nutter who believes the 5G conspiracy theories! Everyone else I know has said they are happy to have had it, regardless of which vaccine they had.

Same here. Of the two I know, one genuinely believes the earth is flat and the other believes all the YouTube guff about it being a common cold which was exaggerated to control the public.

I know loads None are conspiracy theorist nutters Just people concerned that they may end up with something a lot worse than covid Sounds quite reasonable to me. As for flat earthers ..yeah right. We can park that one elsewhere

I’m not having it. I resent being called selfish but you can think what you like.

You can resent it if you wish. Doesn’t make it any less true, if you are capable of having the vaccine but are choosing not to.

I'm not having it for health reasons. Most I know have had it and I know a few who are healthy and won't have it. It's very difficult as I understand one way to reduce the impact worldwide on all of us is vaccination. I'm happy the majority are being vaccinated. But, if it ever comes up for children, mine won't be having it. I've also declined the regular flu vaccine for my child even though flu can make me much sicker than the average person if I get it. Some people do have odd, subtle changes to their bodies after drugs, vaccines. They aren't always acknowledged medically. This is not conspiracy theory land either, I really see both sides of the fence tbh.

You can resent it if you wish. Doesn’t make it any less true, if you are capable of having the vaccine but are choosing not to.

But if someone has other reasons for not having it, they’re not necessarily selfish. That’s just your interpretation of it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

You can resent it if you wish. Doesn’t make it any less true, if you are capable of having the vaccine but are choosing not

There is an age tipping point where risk from the vaccine is greater than the risk of covid.
I would argue that demanding to use the bodies of the young and healthy as human shields is the selfish action.

There is an age tipping point where risk from the vaccine is greater than the risk of covid. I would argue that demanding to use the bodies of the young and healthy as human shields is the selfish action.

Except there isn’t. More misinformation.

www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1425592/indian-covid-variant-symptoms-shortness-of-breath-nausea-abdominal-pain-hearing-impairment

You need to balance it against the risk of the Indian variant to the young unvaccinated population.