Breaking news. Number of people post vaccine hospitalisation & deaths

[Emma2021]

Good morning

Good details in reports re the number of people that went into hospital follwing their first jab at less than 3 weeks post jab and 21 days post jabs and deaths.
Does not say if AS or pifzer or both.

Study is limited and further research is required.
The bottom line is, even after getting your jabs, social distancing is important as most will be aware here.

It's a worrying read but don't forget this is a limited study and further, detailed research is required and most that ended up in hospital post jab are described as previously being "frail."

So, please don't forget social distancing.
Get you jabs imo and SD.

www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1430834/coronavirus-uk-latest-update-vaccine-admitted-to-hospital

Is "i know loads of vaccinated people who still got covid and ended up in hospital" the new "I know loads of mid 30 marathon runners in ICU with covid"?

Bullshitters gonna bullshit

@Bordois not all had bad side effects but a lot did (but no one had any from the second one). It seems that whoever brought it in had a bad case and everyone who caught it did too. The strain has been looked at by PHE because we are a government organisation but I’m not sure what the results were. Our procedures have also been looked at because of the areas and it was found we couldn’t have done any more. We can not afford for an outbreak, we are fastidious with cleaning and distancing and mask wearing and there’s no explanation as to why it happened so far. We have to stay open 365/24/7 so we absolutely couldn’t take any chances.

[quote LeSquigh]@BlueBlancmange my department is quite small, a total of about 30 people. We had 7 cases, two of those were over 40 but the rest under, all had had two vaccines (although had only just had their second one) bar one who had had neither vaccine and I think one who had just had one.

No one was admitted as such but two were given oxygen (and one also antibiotics, not sure why) in A&E.[/quote]
How are so many young people fully vaccinated?

I'm CV and ancient and I'm not!

[quote LeSquigh]@BlueBlancmange yes it is, and it’s very worrying. I have been working a huge amount of overtime to cover the absences with the constant worry that I’m going to catch it again, it’s exhausting. All of them (and they are mostly recovered from the worst now) have been very unwell. It’s been horrendous. We are doing LFT daily but they don’t seem to be picking up a positive result until there is very obvious symptoms. We have had three deep cleans and we cannot close.[/quote]
I'm finding this difficult to believe. I work in a factory and we have been open throughout, we had a big Covid outbreak in January 20+ people testing positive. Absolutely no one was that ill they needed hospital treatment. All back to work after their 2 week isolation. These are not young healthy people either, it's men aged 50+ who smoke and drink and obviously none had the vaccine at that point. So I'm struggling to believe that many young vaccinated people were so unwell.

@TheVampiresWife are you in England? You can book online

[quote LeSquigh]@Bordois not all had bad side effects but a lot did (but no one had any from the second one). It seems that whoever brought it in had a bad case and everyone who caught it did too. The strain has been looked at by PHE because we are a government organisation but I’m not sure what the results were. Our procedures have also been looked at because of the areas and it was found we couldn’t have done any more. We can not afford for an outbreak, we are fastidious with cleaning and distancing and mask wearing and there’s no explanation as to why it happened so far. We have to stay open 365/24/7 so we absolutely couldn’t take any chances.[/quote]
So one workplace has lots of young people who are fully vaccinated, many of whom caught covid anyway and became seriously ill and needed hospital treatment, and on top of all that it's a nasty strain being looked at by PHE.

Eeeeeh, what are the chances?!

@GiveMeTulipsfromAmsterdam I don’t have any aims, I’ve had COVID, I’ve had both vaccines and yes the government are aware of it as we are a government department. I do not have any reason to make this up.

Clearly anyone can say whatever they feel like on an anonymous forum and whether you choose to believe me or not is really up to you.

I’m not going to comment any more as it seems to have hijacked the OPs thread.

Believe it or don’t. I’m not in the habit of making up stories about friends and colleagues being ill. I don’t even see what the point in that would be? The National figures clearly show that the vaccine has had a massive effect. We have clearly been very unlucky and I just wanted to make the point that it’s not over for everyone.

[quote QueenPaw]@TheVampiresWife are you in England? You can book online[/quote]
I've had my first but my second is still a few weeks away.

@TheVampiresWife ahh! I'm CEV and had my second just this weekend

[quote LeSquigh]@Bordois not all had bad side effects but a lot did (but no one had any from the second one). It seems that whoever brought it in had a bad case and everyone who caught it did too. The strain has been looked at by PHE because we are a government organisation but I’m not sure what the results were. Our procedures have also been looked at because of the areas and it was found we couldn’t have done any more. We can not afford for an outbreak, we are fastidious with cleaning and distancing and mask wearing and there’s no explanation as to why it happened so far. We have to stay open 365/24/7 so we absolutely couldn’t take any chances.[/quote]
Nope, you were quite insistent that all of them had had side effects, some were even bed-ridden!

Gosh what terrible luck

[quote QueenPaw]@TheVampiresWife ahh! I'm CEV and had my second just this weekend
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It's the 'E' that makes all the difference

If you don't mind me asking (and sorry to thread hijack a bit) but did you have the AZ? I felt awful for a few days after my first one but heard the second is better, was it for you?

Congrats on being fully 'done'!

Dreadfully unlucky @LeSquigh

I'm so pleased that PHE are looking into it for you, whatever will you encounter next ...bad vaccine side effects in your team, covid outbreaks of a strain that meant even young, double vaccinated people needed hospital treatment and quite a lot of them too. Hopefully your luck and that of your very important 24/7 365 will improve

All had side effects and large number were bedridden, @LeSquigh.

You really do have the most unlucky workplace. I'd be looking for a new job if I were you!

@TheVampiresWife no it's fine! Was rough after the first then the second just a bit tired, headache and slight temp but for about 12hrs, my arm isn't even sore this time

[quote QueenPaw]@TheVampiresWife no it's fine! Was rough after the first then the second just a bit tired, headache and slight temp but for about 12hrs, my arm isn't even sore this time [/quote]
Ah good to hear, thank you!

How are so many young people double vaccinated in this workplace? At my work 75% of us are under 40 and only one of us has even had a first dose nevermind two!

@OliveTree75

How are so many young people double vaccinated in this workplace? At my work 75% of us are under 40 and only one of us has even had a first dose nevermind two!

Cannot speak for other but earlier the poster who suggested double vaccinated young people were needing hospital treatment at her workplace after getting covid was LeSquigh who works as a 999 operator, so probably got their vaccinations done as priority since vital to keep 999 services running. I imagine @LeSquigh will confirm why...

@PurplePumpkinDream

I agree with Emma. I think we need to be cautious for a while yet, give it a chance, I’ll be anyway.

Thank you.

"We have clearly been very unlucky and I just wanted to make the point that it’s not over for everyone."

Given that staff in one workplace account for so many of the unlucky 0.0015% (figure taken from upthread, I haven't checked it) I think most of the rest of us are probably the 99.9985% and can relax!

I think anyone who uses the phrase ‘bedridden’ is perhaps prone to a little exaggeration.

I had my first jab 3 weeks ago, had a temperature, felt flu-ey & my arm still bloody hurts. Had a day slobbing around in a Dressing Gown of Despair & slept like the dead on & off for a day, but bedridden?

Likewise all of my colleagues & friends (all around the same age if not slightly older). We all were given a bonus day off after the jab as we all felt pants.

Bedridden is one of those loaded phrases (from one with a disability & disease that can leave me in bed for days at a time & truly stuck in bed with help to toilet etc).

A good immune response does tend to knock you back for a couple of days, and you want a good immune response.

Edit to add - but we all sure as sh*te don’t think we were bedridden.

[quote TheVampiresWife]@Jaxhog social distancing means that many cultural venues won't be able to run profitably so will close permanently. Ditto pubs, restaurants, theatres, music venues. It means more expensive travel and less of it. It means no hugging friends or family.

It's not a 'courtesy', it's a death knell if allowed to carry on indefinitely.[/quote]
Was just about to post a similar reply! I wish people actually understood what SD is and what it means before they declare they're happy to do it for the long term and think everyone else should too.