Would you vaccinate your child?

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Have just seen a post (in the daily Mail, sorry) suggesting that all over 12s could be offered a vaccine from September. It made mention of the AZ vaccine trials in children above 6 so I am unsure whether this vaccine is one of the ones planned for use?

This was along side the news that the az vaccine carries a 1 in 126000 chance of death.

Bearing in mind that 14 people under 20 have died of Covid.

How is this a sensible risk/benefit analysis?!

I am in my late 30s and when I did the Covid calculator my risk of dying if I caught Covid (which is obviously not a guaranteed thing) is 1 in 145000 so I am assuming the risk for a 12 year old is thousands of times less than that.

Who would vaccinate their children?

"The trouble is that if kids aren’t vaccinated, the virus will evolve to be more successful in kids, and that possibly will lead to further mutations which eventually beat the adult vaccines."

Rubbish.

They have paused the az vaccine to under 30’s and stopped the kids trials?
Why in the name of sanity is anyone considering this right now? Jesus.
Nothing is worth sticking experimental not yet fully tested medicines into the whole child population of the uk NOTHING!
Not disrupted education, not lost adult lives, not possible mutations, not lost jobs, not even more lockdowns.
Until they are deemed completely safe (and this won’t be until at least 2023) No mass child vaccines should be administered.
Do you want your child to be a ticking time bomb for future problems or wondering what’s going to come out next in the news. Once given it can never be taken back. No thanks.

No.

Absolutely not. My children had covid. They were both asymptomatic.

Yes

I pay for them to have a flu vaccine each year too.

@HazeyJaneII

They said they don't know whether it affects fertility or not yet.

Who is 'they'? Could you link to the information?
My teenage dds are keen to get the vaccine when one is available in their age range, but obviously such an enormous risk, ie to future fertility, would have to be considered.

By they I mean the pharma companies. I read just this morning Pfizer stated they don't know what affect it has on fertility. There is also investigations going on because so many females periods have changed or stopped altogether

Yes I would. That would mean everyone in my family was vaccinated.

Yes.

The more people infected in any society the more mutations happen. It makes sense to minimise infections as much as possible to prevent vaccine escape.

@Valhalla17

"The trouble is that if kids aren’t vaccinated, the virus will evolve to be more successful in kids, and that possibly will lead to further mutations which eventually beat the adult vaccines."

Rubbish.

No, not rubbish

If COVID continues to circulate in a large proportion of the population who are unvaccinated, the virus will gain further mutations. Each new infection provides a new opportunity for mistakes to be made when the genetic code is copied, meaning a higher the caseload = a faster rate of mutation. This can lead to the emergence of new strains, which may evade natural or vaccine-induce protection that was acquired from older strains. So that is one argument as to why it would be beneficial to vaccinate under 18s.

100% Absolutely Not with all the bells and whistles!

The vaccine is to protect against serious illness. Children are not at risk of serious, or it seems even mild illness, from SARS-cov2.

If someone wants to try and convince me that kids being vaccinated may also help community transmission then it would be a tough sell because we’re all still partially locked down and told not to hug or meet Indoors even if vaccinated, which the vast majority of adults are already.

Additionally, I’m just not prepared to put my child at any risk no matter how small for the protection of anyone else, even myself or my own relatives. For me it’s trading a zero risk for a non zero risk.

I said in a previous post they are coming for your kids next. Shame on any parent who willingly allows their child to take part in an experimental trial of a vaccine. Nothing is approved yet! Absolutely disputable parents!

It's highly unethical and historically unprecedented to vaccinate a child against a disease which poses no risk to them

We vaccinate children against Rubella. It poses no risk to them. So no, not unprecedented at all.

We also vaccinate children against flu, despite the fact it generally causes no harm, especially to older children. We do so to protect others.

Bit dramatic @happyfooot

@oldegg123 I hope you don’t have children. If you do and you are willing to potentially sacrifice their health to save “the population” when nothing is known of the long term side effects or even the level of protection the vaccine offers then you never should have had kids.

By they I mean the pharma companies. I read just this morning Pfizer stated they don't know what affect it has on fertility. There is also investigations going on because so many females periods have changed or stopped altogether

This is bollocks.

Yes

@BettysCardigan I think the fact parents are not outraged by this deserve a dramatic response. I’m truly shocked how many are willing to allow their children to have this vaccine.

13:08Valhalla17

It's put a bit melodramatically but it's actually not rubbish. There's hard science behind that chain of events. Not inevitable but very much a concern for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Sorry to disappoint you.

You mean the vaccine that has already been given to hundreds of millions of people with very very few cases of serious side effects?

Give.Over.

Where exactly did you read that, @wasthataburp?

[quote happyfooot]@oldegg123 I hope you don’t have children. If you do and you are willing to potentially sacrifice their health to save “the population” when nothing is known of the long term side effects or even the level of protection the vaccine offers then you never should have had kids.[/quote]
@happyfooot

I literally just corrected a poster who stated it was "rubbish" that transmission in children can lead to new stains emerging and explained how it can occur.

Scientific misinformation is dangerous and mumsnet is full of it - I think everyone should have access to the correct info in order to make their own decision which isn't coerced by things that aren't true.

I then said this was one argument for vaccinating children. I didn't give a firm opinion on what I think the best decision would be. Jesus.

@happyfooot

mobile.twitter.com/medtech_BM/status/1385243734099599367
@MintyMabel link to official guidance issued by Pfizer to UK GPs regarding the administration
of the vaccine to pregnant, fertile or breastfeeding women.
In summary, it advises against giving to any pregnant woman, any breastfeeding woman or any woman intending to try to conceive in the next 2 months due to the fact they have NO evidence yet that it is safe. Animal trials have not yet been completed!
I mean, it’s actually abhorrent that it’s being offered before safety trials are properly completed to anyone other than those who stand at higher risk of developing severe covid.

We won't be shown footage of what is happening to children in India at the moment. It's too horrendous. This is affecting the rich and poor alike. Agonising deaths. I think some parents need to inform themselves about what is taking place. No amount of money can buy oxygen or a positive Covid test without which a hospital bed is impossible to hope for. We're talking about a country with excellent health care for some, yet everyone is being affected. A very high vaccination rate is required to make sure what's happening there is never the reality for our children. Two months ago India considered itself home and dry.